I think the intention is to have that proposal (which proposes a language 
change) be superseded by this idea (which does not change the language).
Oh, I did not know that.   I’ll ignore the proposal for now, in that case.

All that would take is putting Coercion in TysWiredIn, and moving Coercion from 
Data.Type.Coercion to somewhere in ghc-prim.

I don’t think it’s quite as simple as that.  Yes, we can wire it into the 
compiler; but we still need a module that defines the info table, curried data 
constructor etc for the type.  And we have no way to do that.

We could utterly lie and say
              data Coercion a b where
                  Coercion :: Coercion a a

That would generate the right bits in in the .o file, and we’d totally ignore 
the .hi file.  Gruesome but I think it would work.


But rather than all this circumlocution, why don’t we just make it possible to 
write ~# and ~R# directly.  Even if we dodge the need right now, it’ll surely 
come back.

If that is lexically tiresome, we could I suppose provide builtin-aliases for 
them, as if we had
              type NomEq# = (~#)
             type ReprEq# = (~R#)

Simon

From: Ryan Scott <[email protected]>
Sent: 05 September 2018 15:26
To: Simon Peyton Jones <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Unpacking coercions

> Simple is good.  But what is this dead simple idea?

I'm referring to David's first e-mail on this thread: 
https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/ghc-devs/2018-September/016191.html

All that would take is putting Coercion in TysWiredIn, and moving Coercion from 
Data.Type.Coercion to somewhere in ghc-prim.

> Maybe this thread belongs with the proposal, unless I’m misunderstanding.

I think the intention is to have that proposal (which proposes a language 
change) be superseded by this idea (which does not change the language).

Ryan S.


On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Simon Peyton Jones 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Simple is good.  But what is this dead simple idea?

Perhaps: 
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/116<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fghc-proposals%2Fghc-proposals%2Fpull%2F116&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Cab6e886b24b548eab26608d6133b91b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636717543898919689&sdata=XKBwJiLM%2FcH5FeRLuodH3SKXQUppYT0QYDojH4fO7Tg%3D&reserved=0>
But that proposal lists several possible alternatives.  Which one did you mean?

And all of them are language changes. Making evidence strict would require no 
language changes to solve the original problem.

Maybe this thread belongs with the proposal, unless I’m misunderstanding.

Simon

From: ghc-devs 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf 
Of Ryan Scott
Sent: 05 September 2018 15:15
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Unpacking coercions

These aren't mutually exclusive ideas. While I'm sure there's many ways we 
could solve this problem, David's idea has the distinct advantage of being dead 
simple. I'd rather not block his vision on some other large refactor that may 
never materialize. (And if it _does_ materialize, we could revert any wiring-in 
of Coercible quite easily.)

Ryan S.

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