It sounds as if the specialiser is going mad, generating tons and tons of
specialisations.

If you can make your own GHC I can tell  you how to spit out a trace
whenever it makes a speicalisation; then we can see what it is doing.

Simon

On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 at 02:10, Justin Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you for the suggestion! It does seem to be something huge. I can
> get output from the specialisation pass for some programs and I see
> things like:
>
> Result size of Specialise
>   = {terms: 200, types: 552, coercions: 95, joins: 0/21}
>
> Result size of Specialise
>   = {terms: 29,314, types: 316,883, coercions: 73,030, joins: 0/627}
>
> Result size of Specialise
>   = {terms: 2,362,118,
>      types: 25,657,037,
>      coercions: 5,919,604,
>      joins: 0/49,227}
>
> I'll attempt to use a modified GHC :pray:
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 3:41 PM Simon Peyton Jones
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe the specialiser is somehow looping or generating a huge program.
> >
> > What I would do is to un-comment some of the `pprTrace` lines in
> GHC.Core.Opt.Specialise and try again to ss what's going on inside the
> specialiser.  But that requires you to build GHC itself, and I don't know
> if you are set up to do that.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 at 22:08, Justin Bailey via ghc-devs <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Looking for some guidance on narrowing down an issue I am seeing at
> >> work. Some background: large monorepo, many packages; I'm on MacOS
> >> Tahoe (26.6).
> >>
> >> I have a problematic module that causes GHC to allocate a HUGE amount
> >> of memory under certain conditions. Compilation never finishes -
> >> instead, the process is killed by the OS.
> >>
> >> * With -O1, GHC consumes a huge amount of memory (> 32GB) before
> >> getting killed by the OS.
> >> * Without -O1, but with all available -f flags that seemed to be
> >> implied by -O1, GHC does NOT blow up and compilation succeeds. (List
> >> of flags below.)
> >>
> >> The last output (with -ddump-phases) in the failing case is always
> >> "*** Specialise [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:" followed by a
> >> newline, then nothing else.
> >>
> >> I'm working to isolate the code that's causing the problem, to get to
> >> a repro case, but in the meantime can anyone suggest why -O1 fails but
> >> all the -f flags do not?
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> p.s. I'm happy to share logs but don't want to spam the list if those
> >> aren't necessary.
> >>
> >> **********
> >> Here are all the flags I used in place of -O1:
> >>
> >> -fblock-layout-cfg
> >> -fcall-arity
> >> -fcase-folding
> >> -fcase-merge
> >> -fcore-constant-folding
> >> -fcmm-control-flow
> >> -fcmm-elim-common-blocks
> >> -fcmm-sink
> >> -fcmm-static-pred
> >> -fcore-constant-folding
> >> -fcpr-anal
> >> -fcross-module-specialise
> >> -fcse
> >> -fenable-rewrite-rules
> >> -fexitification
> >> -ffloat-in
> >> -ffull-laziness
> >> -fignore-asserts
> >> -finline-generics
> >> -floopification
> >> -fnum-constant-folding
> >> -fsolve-constant-dicts
> >> -fspecialise
> >> -fstg-cse
> >> -fstrictness
> >> -funbox-small-strict-fields
> >> -fworker-wrapper
> >>
> >>
> >> **********
> >>
> >> Here is the (possibly) relevant logs for compilation with -O1 that
> failed:
> >>
> >> *** Checking old interface for aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers
> >> (use -ddump-hi-diffs for more details):
> >> [62 of 74] Compiling aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers (
> >> test/aaa/Tests/Service/Client/TestHelpers.hs,
> >>
> /Users/xxx.yyy/Source/health-engine/well-he-aaa/worktrees/master/dist-newstyle/build/aarch64-osx/ghc-9.14.1/aaa-service-client-0.0.0/t/test/noopt/build/test/test-tmp/aaa/Tests/Service/Client/TestHelpers.o,
> >>
> /Users/xxx.yyy/Source/health-engine/well-he-aaa/worktrees/master/dist-newstyle/build/aarch64-osx/ghc-9.14.1/aaa-service-client-0.0.0/t/test/noopt/build/test/test-tmp/aaa/Tests/Service/Client/TestHelpers.dyn_o
> >> )
> >> *** Parser [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> !!! Parser [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished in 7.28
> >> milliseconds, allocated 2.470 megabytes
> >> *** Renamer/typechecker [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> *** ConsistencyCheck [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> !!! ConsistencyCheck [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished
> >> in 1763.61 milliseconds, allocated 750.592 megabytes
> >> !!! Renamer/typechecker [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> finished in 2449.36 milliseconds, allocated 962.845 megabytes
> >> *** Desugar [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> Result size of Desugar (before optimization)
> >>   = {terms: 713, types: 33,167, coercions: 15,521, joins: 0/171}
> >> Result size of Desugar (after optimization)
> >>   = {terms: 551, types: 27,957, coercions: 15,828, joins: 0/93}
> >> !!! Desugar [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished in 5.46
> >> milliseconds, allocated 2.524 megabytes
> >> *** Simplifier [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> Result size of Simplifier iteration=1
> >>   = {terms: 2,677, types: 74,181, coercions: 37,908, joins: 0/155}
> >> Result size of Simplifier iteration=2
> >>   = {terms: 1,737, types: 52,195, coercions: 27,615, joins: 0/88}
> >> Result size of Simplifier iteration=3
> >>   = {terms: 1,673, types: 51,005, coercions: 19,466, joins: 0/80}
> >> Result size of Simplifier iteration=4
> >>   = {terms: 1,630, types: 50,531, coercions: 19,333, joins: 0/78}
> >> Result size of Simplifier
> >>   = {terms: 1,630, types: 50,531, coercions: 19,333, joins: 0/78}
> >> !!! Simplifier [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished in
> >> 217.38 milliseconds, allocated 120.723 megabytes
> >> *** Specialise [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >>
> >> **********
> >>
> >> Here are those same logs (up to specialisation) for a compilation that
> >> succeeded (no -O1, only the -f flags):
> >>
> >> *** Checking old interface for aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers
> >> (use -ddump-hi-diffs for more details):
> >> [62 of 74] Compiling aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers (
> >> test/aaa/Tests/Service/Client/TestHelpers.hs,
> >>
> /Users/xxx.yyy/Source/health-engine/well-he-aaa/worktrees/master/dist-newstyle/build/aarch64-osx/ghc-9.14.1/aaa-service-client-0.0.0/t/test/noopt/build/test/test-tmp/aaa/Tests/Service/Client/TestHelpers.o,
> >>
> /Users/xxx.yyy/Source/health-engine/well-he-aaa/worktrees/master/dist-newstyle/build/aarch64-osx/ghc-9.14.1/aaa-service-client-0.0.0/t/test/noopt/build/test/test-tmp/aaa/Tests/Service/Client/TestHelpers.dyn_o
> >> )
> >> *** Parser [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> !!! Parser [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished in 5.70
> >> milliseconds, allocated 2.470 megabytes
> >> *** Renamer/typechecker [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> *** ConsistencyCheck [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> !!! ConsistencyCheck [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished
> >> in 1707.88 milliseconds, allocated 749.094 megabytes
> >> !!! Renamer/typechecker [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> finished in 2305.51 milliseconds, allocated 959.358 megabytes
> >> *** Desugar [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> Result size of Desugar (before optimization)
> >>   = {terms: 713, types: 33,167, coercions: 15,521, joins: 0/171}
> >> Result size of Desugar (after optimization)
> >>   = {terms: 551, types: 27,957, coercions: 15,828, joins: 0/93}
> >> !!! Desugar [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished in 4.66
> >> milliseconds, allocated 2.526 megabytes
> >> *** Simplifier [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> Result size of Simplifier iteration=1
> >>   = {terms: 555, types: 27,953, coercions: 15,828, joins: 0/93}
> >> Result size of Simplifier
> >>   = {terms: 555, types: 27,953, coercions: 15,828, joins: 0/93}
> >> !!! Simplifier [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished in
> >> 8.60 milliseconds, allocated 5.818 megabytes
> >> *** Specialise [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]:
> >> Result size of Specialise
> >>   = {terms: 555, types: 27,953, coercions: 15,828, joins: 0/10}
> >> !!! Specialise [aaa.Tests.Service.Client.TestHelpers]: finished in
> >> 3.98 milliseconds, allocated 2.227 megabytes
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