On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:

> > So, did you guys know that Disney considered using the GIMP and/or
> > Cinepaint, but instead paid some coders to make sure PS runs in
> > WINE?
> >
> > <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1210083,00.asp>
> Yup.

When this was on Slashdot I did mention at least in a PS at the end of one
of my mails.
/me thinks of searching the archive
but is the archive working again?
will the alternative link suggested be up to date
(last time I looked it was lagging by a few days)
...
but anyway I am logged in on a console, so I'll skip finding a link this
time.

> I saw this over on slashdot. And when I commented there something
> about preferring to see th GIMP, if not for anything else, for the
> free-software question, I got some 15 replies flaming me all over.

1) You will probably get flamed no matter what you say on Slashdot,
although I am would be interested to read exactly what you wrote.

2) Gimp and CinePaint were incidental to the article, the big deal was
that Disney *EVIL* actually spent some money and helped improve WINE
*GOOD* (although some looonatics object to WINE on a twisted notion
that compatability with legacy applications is a bad idea).

3) They probably only evaluated GIMP 1.2, and even though GIMP 1.3 is a
lot better I dont think any of you will deny there is 'room for
improvement'

4) Although there are some tradeoffs CinePaint better fills the niche for
a movie studio, higher colour depth and support for file formats such as
OpenEXR are important.

5) Adobe Photoshop users, particularly proffesional artists love Adobe
Photoshop.  Price is not really an issue when the company is paying (up
to a point, companies will eventually draw the line (no pun intended))
GIMP/CinePaint needs to be more than just as good, it needs to
be significantly better for that kind of specialist user to make the
effort to change.

The killer feature(s) in the GIMP is freedom, and so cheap it is free.
Proffessionals who depend on Adobe Photoshop are probably the last
people that will convert to the GIMP.  The value they place on Photoshop
is not just the box price, it is the years of time and effort invested
into learning it inside out and more.

However after saying all that a whole lot could have been done to improve
the GIMP or (and you are not going to like me for saying this) more likely
CinePaint, with the hefty amount of money that Disney was willing to spend
on this project.

Perhaps if Adobe Photoshop 8 fails to maintain WINE compatibility they
will look this way again.

Has anyone mailed the man at Disney yet?  I probably will, and encourage
him to provide feedback, hopefully with a little more detail than just
make it more like Photoshop.
He seems to be in some way affiliated with CinePaint already
(I forget his name but I looked it up when the article was first mentioned).

- Alan


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