Am Dienstag, 4. Juni 2019, 15:13:01 CEST schrieb Jehan: > On 2019-06-04 14:31, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 28. Mai 2019, 13:30:08 CEST schrieb Simon Budig: > > > > [...] > > > >> One thing which came up though (and which we already have discussed in > >> the past IIRC) is the need for a better support for multiple documents > >> in single window mode. The software they're using currently is using a > >> classic Windows Multiple Documents Interface (MDI) and they do in fact > >> make use of it. I tried to explain why I personally consider GIMPs > >> multiple window interface as quite good, but the not-so-great support > >> for multiple desktops in windows (and the bad window management) made > >> this a tough point to sell... :) > >> > >> I see two options here and I think we've been discussing these in the > >> past. > >> > >> a) create multiple side-by-side image views within the single window > >> > >> mode. We could allow for tiling the image area into multiple > >> notebooks, each containing its own set of images, allowing for > >> Drag'n'Drop between them etc. ppp. My gut feeling is that this > >> should be quite doable. It might be a bit tricky to control the > >> keyboard focus there and to make it clear to the user, which of > >> > >> the > >> > >> images will be affected by the next keystroke. > >> > >> b) (not necessary XOR) it might be feasible to allow for a kind of > >> > >> hybrid single/multiple window mode, where one can drag out > >> > >> notebook-tabs into their own image view that then is managed by the > >> window > >> > >> manager. So we would have one dedicated main window containing > >> > >> the > >> > >> toolbox and the notebook-area with image views as well as > >> > >> separate > >> > >> windows containing image views (or a notebook of image views?). > > > > What about this: > > > > The tabs in single image mode are not just for one image each but > > contain > > "workspaces". By default an image is opened in a new workspace > > containing a > > single image, so it's the same we currently have. It would however be > > possible > > to split the image area to show more than one image or view. I somewhat > > like > > the quick and easy way that's done in blender, however, one would need > > to > > think about what to do when the last view of an image is closed. That > > way each > > tab could contain a arbitrarily complex setup of image views with the > > toolboxen staying the same for all of them. Having rip-off windows > > might be > > nice, but I personally don't feel the need, and having both a single > > image > > window mixed with some floating windows might be confusing. > > How we handle images in single window mode is anyway a real pain to me. > Splitting a single tab to show several views of the same image or even > different images is indeed a great idea. > But also we should be able to detach image tabs (which is what you call > rip-off windows, I guess?)
Yes. > into their own windows (same as we can detach > dockables even when in single window mode). I personally don't believe > this to be confusing. I mean detaching tabs is a common feature in many > software (like web browsers!), and it allows to do much more than being > limited by what the program will allow you. First of all, if you have > several screens, you can leave some images on one screen (say your > reference images) and others on another screen (the image(s) you are > working on for instance). And more usage (you are then only limited by > your window manager). Good point, I didn't think about the multiple monitor use case. > In other words, we should stop with the whole single vs multi window > mode nonsense. We should simply have a single mode allowing all > possibilities (attaching or detaching images, dockables, toolbox, etc.). Word. > This is something which have been on my TODO-list for years, and I am > never able to make the time to do this. I would support anyone wishing > to work in such directions. :-) I don't think I'll have the time needed for that. :-( > > I'm also CC'ing the gui list as that seems to be a better place for > > this part > > of the discussion. > > By the way, maybe you want to subscribe to the gui list. I had to > manually approve this email. :-) Actually I am, just with a different address it seems. :-/ > Jehan Tobias
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