I apologise that my last message appear as writen by s.kortenweg. Next time I'll pay more attention to what is going to be send, before i press "send button". This bad example from Corel is my experience and i don't wish to speak for anyone else.
Dominik Tabisz 2013/2/21, Dominik Tabisz <d.kup...@gmail.com>: > All the arguments about encouraging/forcing users to non destructive > workflow are reasonable, but there is one tiny problem. I've > encountered it while cooperating with "professional users" of > CorelDraw (design studios, marketing companies etc.) > > Corel can understand bunch of vector-based fileformats. It can import > them, it can write into them. So in theory i could prepare image in > *.eps or *.svg and it can be later processed in Corel. > In fact any images that was not in native CorelDraw fileformat was > rejected. (Even images from Adobe Illustrator !) > > Reason was simple: Corel open only it's native files (*.cdr). You can > launch Corel and later import *.ai, *.svg, *.ps but You can not just > navigate to such file and double click it to edit. You can't open them > from command line too. > This mean that "professional corel users" were forced to THINK ... > they just choose to reject Your graphics. > > > We can improve programs, we can create better images but we're unable > to change peoples (un)thinking habbits. Please imagine what harm to > trade and workflow can arise from proposed improvement of open/import > behaviour. > > If You really believe that this change is necessary, there should be > way of avoiding disaster that happened to "Proffesional Corel Users". > > Let me give some proposition: > 1)Gimp always open/import any type of file, it can understand. No > matter if we ask program to do so from it's menu, command line or just > click file in file commander. > 2) After Gomp start and examine the file there are two possibilities: > a) file is an *.xcf so Gimp just open it. > b) file is not *.xcf -> Gimp show the message and ask for permission > to import it. > > If proposed change don't stop launching Gimp and opening/importing any > file just by selecting it in a file commander, than You can hope it > won't do so much harm to the bussines as Corel behaviour did. > All differences would be one click more and Gimp remain universal image > editor. > > I hope that we're not going to redefine meaning of word > "professional". Corel disaster shows that new meaning of this word is: > someone who have ability to reject Your work. Don't let such > redefinition happen in Free Software ecosystem. > > 2013/2/20, s.kortenweg <s.korten...@hccnet.nl>: >> On 20-02-13 12:55, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: >>> "s.kortenweg" <s.korten...@hccnet.nl> writes: >>> >>>> From the start of GIMP 2.8 there are rumors about Save vs. Export. >>>> It is a change with the past, but that has happened more times by >>>> changing versions. >>>> The first version of the GIMP that i started (i believe 1.2) came up >>>> with a single toolbox and nothing more. >>>> And i survived all the changes that came after that. >>>> To make the changes more visible for the users is it possible to add >>>> to the various Save options >>>> in the File Menu that this will happen in XCF format? >>> As in: >>> >>> ---------------------- >>> | File | >>> |--------------------| >>> | New image | >>> | ... | >>> |--------------------| >>> | Save to XCF | >>> | Save to XCF as ... | >>> | ... | >>> >>> ? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gimp-user-list mailing list >>> gimp-user-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list >> Indeed. >> _______________________________________________ >> gimp-user-list mailing list >> gimp-user-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list >> > -- Dominik Tabisz _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
