Hi there! GIMP compared to Photoshop is like comparing a VW Rabbit to a Bentley. One difference is: you get the Rabbit for free, for the Bentley, you have to pay, and you can only lease it. Honestly: most, you can do with Photoshop, you can do with GIMP - if you are working with RGB. GIMP until now can´t handle CMYK, work for pre-press, Photoshop can. Regards
Klaus Gölker Maxstadtstraße 27 80689 München Tel.: 089 4520 5876 Mobil: 0163 172 1057 www: www.goelker-online.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org> Im Auftrag von gimp-user-list-requ...@gnome.org Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Dezember 2020 18:33 An: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Betreff: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 22 Send gimp-user-list mailing list submissions to gimp-user-list@gnome.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gimp-user-list-requ...@gnome.org You can reach the person managing the list at gimp-user-list-ow...@gnome.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gimp-user-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please! (???????? ???????) 2. Re: Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please! (???????? ???????) 3. Gaussian blur confusion (Joshua Oxley) 4. Colour Palette (Peter Wells) 5. Re: Gaussian blur confusion (Ofnuts) 6. Re: Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please! (gimp-users.mbou...@spamgourmet.com) 7. Re: Gaussian blur confusion (Rick Kline) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 09:53:39 +0200 From: ???????? ??????? <aclassifiedm...@gmail.com> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: [Gimp-user] Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please! Message-ID: <CANYNteYGOR5fn5qg7DHCzx-=5r1ngqtrg-46u4ncpffv90m...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, The last day I've been looking at various reviews of GIMP compared to Photoshop (on the image editing aspect only, as I know GIMP does not focus on anything else), yet none seem satisfying enough: they are being a bit vague with not many specific examples. I have seen some giving specific examples for brushes, selection tools and... generally editing tools, but I'm still not sure whether to trust them, because most people write reviews without actually learning GIMP in such depth as Photoshop. In short, they say GIMP lacks the convenience that Photoshop provides on how to handle tools and brushes. And also, they say the GUI is nicer over at Photoshop, but I cannot guarantee that. On the other hand, I have heard that GIMP has actually been easier to use and learn and more flexible than Photoshop. They say GIMP is actually greater at photo editing than Photoshop is. You can really see that opinions vary so much, I really don't what to conclude. Lastly, as I am really clueless about photo editing, I will refer to the Adobe Photoshop website which contains some short videos (gifs?) that show how photoshop works. They gave me the impression that the software works really smoothly (might be false of course, because of its size) and that it's really simple if you know what you are looking for. Could GIMP be like that too? I really don't know and that's why I ask you, who seem to have a lot of experience at such, photo editing, software like Photoshop. So, again, looking only at the photo editing aspect of Photoshop, what kind of things (tools,brushes, file formats, UI-related) do you think that Photoshop can handle better/worse than GIMP? I planned to make this mail short but failed miserably so if you made it this far, I appreciate it! Just a fan of FOSS and (GNU)Linux, Dimitris Giannos ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 09:58:31 +0200 From: ???????? ??????? <aclassifiedm...@gmail.com> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please! Message-ID: <CANYNteZenxHn1HUNqih2kcsOCW3=Bgaivk0Z=sfxectw8c_...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Oh, I also forgot the part about Photoshop being available for Tablets and phones. Could there be similar plans for GIMP? On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM ???????? ??????? <aclassifiedm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > The last day I've been looking at various reviews of GIMP compared to > Photoshop (on the image editing aspect only, as I know GIMP does not > focus on anything else), yet none seem satisfying enough: they are > being a bit vague with not many specific examples. I have seen some > giving specific examples for brushes, selection tools and... generally > editing tools, but I'm still not sure whether to trust them, because > most people write reviews without actually learning GIMP in such depth as Photoshop. > > In short, they say GIMP lacks the convenience that Photoshop provides > on how to handle tools and brushes. And also, they say the GUI is > nicer over at Photoshop, but I cannot guarantee that. > > On the other hand, I have heard that GIMP has actually been easier to > use and learn and more flexible than Photoshop. They say GIMP is > actually greater at photo editing than Photoshop is. > > You can really see that opinions vary so much, I really don't what to > conclude. Lastly, as I am really clueless about photo editing, I will > refer to the Adobe Photoshop website which contains some short videos > (gifs?) that show how photoshop works. They gave me the impression > that the software works really smoothly (might be false of course, > because of its > size) and that it's really simple if you know what you are looking for. > Could GIMP be like that too? > > I really don't know and that's why I ask you, who seem to have a lot > of experience at such, photo editing, software like Photoshop. So, > again, looking only at the photo editing aspect of Photoshop, what > kind of things (tools,brushes, file formats, UI-related) do you think > that Photoshop can handle better/worse than GIMP? I planned to make > this mail short but failed miserably so if you made it this far, I appreciate it! > > Just a fan of FOSS and (GNU)Linux, > Dimitris Giannos > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:31:25 -0700 From: Joshua Oxley <jmoxle...@gmail.com> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion Message-ID: <cankwdjftus9ambvuz+euuzcahuseotdx-wlpyxtos0-tj0i...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" So I just recently got into using this platform and I was watching a tutorial trying to follow along but I just could not get it to work. I looked into it through the help section and under filters through gaussian blur it lists FIR & RLE. but when I go to make a selection there is FIR and IIR no RLE. When blurring an object it drastically increases it in size but in the video I was watching he blurred the object and it stayed relatively the same size.. I can't find anything online towards the subject and even when I click help in Gimp it clearly states the two options should be FIR and RLE. there is literally no mention of IIR. ANYWHERE. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:34:55 +0100 From: Peter Wells <m...@organbuilder.com> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: [Gimp-user] Colour Palette Message-ID: <2af03c2d-9e8b-6113-2eee-44e5e18d1...@organbuilder.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi, Can anyone tell me how to find the colour palette. i.e. plain colours for example to use with bucket fill. I can find all sorts of patterns and gimmicks but no basic colour palette. Many thanks, Peter. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 17:40:21 +0100 From: Ofnuts <ofn...@gmx.com> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion Message-ID: <cf1356bf-309e-8181-9de0-bf5a25f24...@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed On 21/12/2020 20:31, Joshua Oxley via gimp-user-list wrote: > anything online towards the subject and even when I click help in > Gimp it clearly s The problem is that the blur "units" have changed with Gimp 2.10, IIRC you have to divide by about 6 the blur amounts for previous versions of Gimp. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 17:17:06 +0000 From: gimp-users.mbou...@spamgourmet.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org <gimp-user-list@gnome.org> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please! Message-ID: <e82960e0-7d6e-9297-e0d1-abdca29f4...@bourne.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed ???????? ??????? via gimp-user-list wrote: > Oh, I also forgot the part about Photoshop being available for > Tablets and phones. Could there be similar plans for GIMP? There's an entry on the FAQ about the lack of Android/iOS support: https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#will-you-release-gimp-for-android-or- ios-devices I can't really help with a comparison. I only use GIMP occasionally, mostly for fairly basic things, and have never used Photoshop. I'd guess part of the problem with comparisons is that someone who uses Photoshop all the time (so already has a license for it) can just download GIMP for free, give it a go for a few hours and write a comparison. But they'd perceive GIMP as difficult to use because it's not the same as Photoshop and they haven't got used to the differences. On the other hand, someone who happily uses GIMP all the time, and is really familiar with all its features, isn't so likely to pay for Photoshop just to compare it to GIMP. But if they did, they'd probably encounter similar difficulties with Photoshop. There may well be some reviews out there written by people who do use both regularly and can make a fair comparison, but the difficulty would be finding them (and knowing that you've found them!) -- Mark. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:32:38 -0500 From: Rick Kline <r...@kline.ms> To: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" <gimp-user-list@gnome.org> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion Message-ID: <88b94197-2c93-40dc-9988-0092568ca...@kline.ms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 As the OP mentioned, the Filter options under Gaussian Blur are Auto, FIR, and IIRC. The GIMP 2.10 manual does, indeed, list filter options as Auto, FIR, and RLE, so I can understand the confusion. I typically use Auto, so I?ve never noticed the discrepancy before. Rick * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ********************* It?s better to wave at a stranger than to ignore a friend * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ********************* > On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote: > > On 21/12/2020 20:31, Joshua Oxley via gimp-user-list wrote: >> anything online towards the subject and even >> when I click help in Gimp it clearly s > > The problem is that the blur "units" have changed with Gimp 2.10, IIRC > you have to divide by about 6 the blur amounts for previous versions of > Gimp. > > _______________________________________________ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ------------------------------ End of gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 22 *********************************************** _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list