Sorry for the bother, but there's a new mailing list for programmers who 
want to discuss the current state-of-the-art on googlegroups:  
programming-topics.  Since this is a group for programmers and there aren't 
that many vigorous forums on the net these days, I thought I'd share it.  I 
won't repost or respond to any replies here, only privately.

Best of luck, programmers!

\0xDynamite

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