On May 8, 2017 12:55 PM, Stefan Beller wrote:
>On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Randall S. Becker <rsbec...@nexbridge.com> 
>wrote:
>> On May 8, 2017 12:25 PM, Stefan Beller wrote:
>>>On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Randall S. Becker <rsbec...@nexbridge.com> 
>>>wrote:
>>>> On May 6, 2017 4:38 AM Ciro Santilli wrote:
>>>>> This is a must if you are working with submodules, otherwise every 
>>>>> git checkout requires a git submodule update, and you forget it, 
>>>>> and things break, and you understand, and you go to stack overflow 
>>>>> questions 
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22328053/why-doesnt-git-checkout
>>>>> -a utomatically-do-git-submodule-update-recursive
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4611512/is-there-a-way-to-make-g
>>>>> it -pull-automatically-update-submodules
>>>>> and you give up and create aliases :-)
>>
>>> The upcoming release (2.13) will have "git checkout 
>>> --recurse-submodules", which will checkout the submodules at the commit as 
>>> recorded in the superproject.
>>> I plan to add an option "submodule.recurse" (name is subject to 
>>> bikeshedding), which would make the --recurse-submodules flag given 
>>> by default for all commands that support the flag. (Currently cooking we 
>>> have reset --recurse-submodules, already existing there is push/pull).
>>
>> Brilliant! 😊
>>
>>>> I rather like the concept of supporting --recurse-submodules. The 
>>>> complexity is that the branches in all submodules all have to have 
>>>> compatible >>>semantics when doing the checkout, which is by no means 
>>>> guaranteed. In the scenario where you are including a submodule from a 
>>>> third-party (very >>>common - see gnulib), the branches likely won't be 
>>>> there, so you have a high probability of having the command fail or 
>>>> produce the same results as >>>currently exists if you allow the checkout 
>>>> even with problems (another option?). If you have control of everything, 
>>>> then this makes sense.
>>
>>>I am trying to give the use case of having control over everything (or 
>>>rather mixed) more thought as well, e.g. "checkout --recurse-submodules -b 
>>>>><name>" may want to create the branches in a subset of submodules as well.
>>
>> I have to admit that I just assumed it would have to work that way 
>> this would not be particularly useful. However, in thinking about it, 
>> we might want to limit the depth of how far -b <name> takes effect. If 
>> the super module brings in submodules entirely within control of the 
>> development group, having -b <name> apply down to leaf submodules 
>> makes sense (in some policies). However, if some submodules span out 
>> to, say, gnulib, that might not make particular sense. Some downward 
>> limit might be appropriate. Perhaps, in the submodule ref, you might 
>> want to qualify it as <commit>:<ref> (but the impact of that is 
>> probably and admittedly pretty horrid). I hesitate to suggest a 
>> numeric limit, as that assumes that submodules are organized in a 
>> balanced tree - which is axiomatically unreasonable. Maybe something 
>> in .git/config, like
>>
>> [branch "topic*"]
>>         submodules=a,b,c
>>
>> But I suspect that would make things even more confusing.

>I thought about having yet-another-flag in the .gitmodules file, which states 
>if the submodule is extern or internal.

>[submodule "gnulib"]
>    path=./gnulib
>    external = true # implies no branch for checkout -b --recurse-submodules

>I think there are a couple more situations where such "external" submodules 
>are treated differently, so maybe we'd want to think carefully about the 
>>actual name as different workflows would want to have different features for 
>an internal/external submodule.

I didn't want to open up that one, but yes. That makes sense. However, I don't 
like overloading what "external" means or might mean in the future. Would you 
consider a distinct Boolean for that, like inherit-branch=true?

Cheers,
Randall

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