On December 1, 2017 1:19 PM, Jeff Hostetler wrote:
>On 12/1/2017 12:21 PM, Randall S. Becker wrote:
>> I recently encountered a really strange use-case relating to sparse 
>> clone/fetch that is really backwards from the discussion that has been going 
>> on, and well, I'm a bit embarrassed to bring it up, but I have no good 
>> solution including building a separate data store that will end up 
>> inconsistent with repositories (a bad solution).  The use-case is as follows:
>> 
>> Given a backbone of multiple git repositories spread across an organization 
>> with a server farm and upstream vendors.
>> The vendor delivers code by having the client perform git pull into a 
>> specific branch.
>> The customer may take the code as is or merge in customizations.
>> The vendor wants to know exactly what commit of theirs is installed on each 
>> server, in near real time.
>> The customer is willing to push the commit-ish to the vendor's upstream repo 
>> but does not want, by default, to share the actual commit contents for 
>> security reasons.
>>      Realistically, the vendor needs to know that their own commit id was 
>> put somewhere (process exists to track this, so not part of the use-case) 
>> and whether there is a subsequent commit contributed >by the customer, but 
>> the content is not relevant initially.
>> 
>> After some time, the vendor may request the commit contents from the 
>> customer in order to satisfy support requirements - a.k.a. a defect was 
>> found but has to be resolved.
>> The customer would then perform a deeper push that looks a lot like a 
>> "slightly" symmetrical operation of a deep fetch following a prior sparse 
>> fetch to supply the vendor with the specific commit(s).

>Perhaps I'm not understanding the subtleties of what you're describing, but 
>could you do this with stock git functionality.

>Let the vendor publish a "well known branch" for the client.
>Let the client pull that and build.
>Let the client create a branch set to the same commit that they fetched.
>Let the client push that branch as a client-specific branch to the vendor to 
>indicate that that is the official release they are based on.

>Then the vendor would know the official commit that the client was using.
This is the easy part, and it doesn't require anything sparse to exist.

>If the client makes local changes, does the vendor really need the SHA of 
>those -- without the actual content?
>I mean any SHA would do right?  Perhaps let the client create a second 
>client-specific branch (set to
> the same commit as the first) to indicate they had mods.
>Later, when the vendor needs the actual client changes, the client does a 
>normal push to this 2nd client-specific branch at the vendor.
>This would send everything that the client has done to the code since the 
>official release.

What I should have added to the use-case was that there is a strong audit 
requirement (regulatory, actually) involved that the SHA is exact, immutable, 
and cannot be substitute or forged (one of the reasons git is in such high 
regard). So, no I can't arrange a fake SHA to represent a SHA to be named 
later. It SHA of the installed commit is part of the official record of what 
happened on the specific server, so I'm stuck with it.

>I'm not sure what you mean about "it is inside a tree".

m---a---b---c---H1
          `---d---H2

d would be at a head. b would be inside. Determining content of c is 
problematic if b is sparse, so I'm really unsure that any of this is possible.

Cheers,
Randall

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