On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<ava...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     I ran a small test myself on CentOS 7 (3.10) with ext4 data=ordered
>     on the tests I thought might do a lot of loose object writes:
>
>       $ GIT_PERF_REPEAT_COUNT=10 GIT_PERF_LARGE_REPO=~/g/linux 
> GIT_PERF_MAKE_OPTS="NO_OPENSSL=Y CFLAGS=-O3 -j56" ./run origin/master 
> fsync-on~ fsync-on p3400-rebase.sh p0007-write-cache.sh
>       [...]
>       Test                                                            
> fsync-on~         fsync-on
>       
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       3400.2: rebase on top of a lot of unrelated changes             
> 1.45(1.30+0.17)   1.45(1.28+0.20) +0.0%
>       3400.4: rebase a lot of unrelated changes without split-index   
> 4.34(3.71+0.66)   4.33(3.69+0.66) -0.2%
>       3400.6: rebase a lot of unrelated changes with split-index      
> 3.38(2.94+0.47)   3.38(2.93+0.47) +0.0%
>       0007.2: write_locked_index 3 times (3214 files)                 
> 0.01(0.00+0.00)   0.01(0.00+0.00) +0.0%
>
>    No impact. However I did my own test of running the test suite 10%
>    times with/without this patch, and it runs 9% slower:
>
>      fsync-off: avg:21.59 21.50 21.50 21.52 21.53 21.54 21.57 21.59 21.61 
> 21.63 21.95
>       fsync-on: avg:23.43 23.21 23.25 23.26 23.26 23.27 23.32 23.49 23.51 
> 23.83 23.88

That's not the thing you should check.

Now re-do the test while another process writes to a totally unrelated
a huge file (say, do a ISO file copy or something).

That was the thing that several filesystems get completely and
horribly wrong. Generally _particularly_ the logging filesystems that
don't even need the fsync, because they use a single log for
everything (so fsync serializes all the writes, not just the writes to
the one file it's fsync'ing).

The original git design was very much to write each object file
without any syncing, because they don't matter since a new object file
- by definition - isn't really reachable. Then sync before writing the
index file or a new ref.

But things have changed, I'm not arguing that the code shouldn't be
made safe by default. I personally refuse to use rotating media on my
machines anyway, largely exactly because of the fsync() issue (things
like "firefox" started doing fsync on the mysql database for stupid
things, and you'd get huge pauses).

But I do think your benchmark is wrong. The case where only git does
something is not interesting or relevant. It really is "git does
something _and_ somebody else writes something entirely unrelated at
the same time" that matters.

                  Linus

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