On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Junio C Hamano <gits...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contre...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Moreover, if you are going to argue that we shouldn't be closing the
>> door, then why not link ./builtin/*.o to libgit.a?
>
> Huh?  It does not make any sense.  builtin/*.o files have cmd_foo()
> that are expected to be called from git.c::main(), but libgit.a
> files are linked with no constraints whose main() they are linking
> with.


>> If you are
>> seriously considering the highly unlikely hypothetical standalone
>> git-filter-branch scenario, you should consider the even more likely
>> scenario where somebody needs to access code from ./builtin/*.o; that
>> scenario is not even hypothetical, we know it's happened multiple
>> times, and we know it's going to happen again.
>
> That is exactly why I said that builtin/*.o should be refactored to
> pick "does not have to be in builtin" bits, which will result in a
> better division of labor.  Reusable bits should live in the library,
> while a particular implementation of command remain in builtin/*
> that utilize the reusable bits.
>
> You still haven't justified why we have to _forbid_ any outside
> callers from calling copy_notes_for_rewrite().

Because only builtins _should_ use it. I asked you for an example, and
you said a hypothetical standalone 'git-filter-branch' might use it,
but you have not explained why it should be standalone, when it's
clear it should be a builtin.

If we assume your argument is valid for the hypothetical
'git-filter-branch', if that's the case, then it would be even more
reasonable to assume that there will be other standalone binaries that
would want to use all sort of functions from ./builtin/*.o. Let's put
an example: reset_index(). Some standalone program wants to use that
function. What do you we do?

The shortest route is to make it non-static, and add it to builtin.h.
But that would not be enough, we need the infrastructure prepared for
that; link libgit.a with ./builtin/*.o.

I don't think that's the way to go, but your line of argumentation
leads directly there; if we are worrying about anything that any
potential standalone program could want, then we should worry about
reset_index() not being easily accessible to them.

IMO we should be clear and say no; standalone programs should not
access copy_notes_for_rewrite(), that's for builtins. If we move all
the code that potential standalone programs could want to libgit.a, it
wouldn't be a library at all, and it would basically contain
everything.

-- 
Felipe Contreras
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