On 30/07/2008, at 23:46, Simon Marlow wrote:

We can talk about the general issues on IRC. But I thought I'd answer a few of the specific questions quickly:

Thanks, Simon!

Roman Leschinskiy wrote:

I don't think I understand how GHC itself is built any longer, either. What does cabal-bin do?

It's effectively a pre-compiled Setup.hs for packages that have no need for a custom Setup.hs. cabal-install does the same job for end- users, but we can't rely on having cabal-install in the GHC build system.

I see. So it looks at the Build-Type in the package description and calls the right defaultMain if it's not Custom. And if my Setup.hs isn't standard then it's my responsibility to set the Build-Type to Custom in the .cabal file and this isn't checked, right?

I wonder, though. What exactly does this buy us? Duncan says:

The point being that linking default Setup.hs scripts all the time is a
waste (especially since it doesn't parallelise).

But the time spent in compiling those Setup.hs is negligible and don't understand the "it doesn't parallelise" bit.

What is runghc.wrapper?

it's a template used to make a shell wrapper for a binary. There seems to be new functionality in Cabal to support this.

I see. Is runghc the only program we do this for? Or will others be added gradually?

What is the difference between make.library.* and build.library.* and why do we need both

This one is my fault. build.* runs 'cabal-bin build', whereas make.* runs 'cabal-bin makefile' followed by 'make'. That is, build.* ends up using ghc --make, whereas make.* ends up using a traditional makefile with ghc -M for dependencies and individual single-module compilations. The latter was added so that we could (a) use make -j and (b) compile single modules for testing/debugging purposes.

Ok, this answers the following question:

> (and why doesn't one of them work for dph)?

Because it does non-standard stuff in Setup.hs and hence no Makefile can be generated. Hence the SUBDIRS_BUILD hackery in libraries/ Makefile, I assume.

Thanks again!

Roman

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