Is there any difference between "-XImpredicativePolymorphism" and "- XImpredicativeTypes"?

Hyena uses the latter, and we're using Hyena somewhat "in anger".

--Ben

On 30 Oct 2009, at 09:51, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote:

Friends

One more update about GHC 6.12, concerning impredicative polymorphism.

GHC has had an experimental implementation of impredicative polymorphism for a year or two now (flag - XImpredicativePolymorphism). But

 a) The implementation is ridiculously complicated, and the complexity
    is pervasive (in the type checker) rather than localized.
    I'm very unhappy about this, especially as we add more stuff to
    the type checker for type families.

b) The specification (type system) is well-defined [1], but is also pretty
    complicated, and it's just too hard to predict which programs will
    typecheck and which will not.

So it's time for a re-think. I propose to deprecate it in 6.12, and remove it altogether in 6.14. We may by then have something else to put in its place. (There is no lack of candidates [2,3,4]!)

Fortunately, I don't think a lot of people use the feature in anger. Please yell if you *are* using impredicative polymorphism for something serious. But if you are, we need to think of a workaround. The current situation seems unsustainable.

Simon

[1] http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/boxy/
[2] http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/crusso/qml/
[3] http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/daan/pubs.html
[4] http://gallium.inria.fr/~remy/mlf/
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