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> Datum: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:22:11 +0200
> Von: Stephan von Krawczynski <sk...@ithnet.com>
> An: gluster-users@gluster.org
> Betreff: Re: [Gluster-users] 2.0.6

> On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:01:46 +0200
> Stephan von Krawczynski <sk...@ithnet.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I really do wonder if any of you does rsync onto glusterfs. I can't
> hardly
> > believe that, because 2.0.6 as every single release before has broken
> mtimes
> > on non-empty directories. Am I really the only one recognising this
> > fundamental flaw?
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > Stephan
> 
> And, I forgot to mention: it took me around 1 hour of bonnie to crash a
> server
> in a classical distribute setup...
> Please stop featurism and start reliability.
> 
Before I start my rant: Yes. I have crashed GlusterFS as well. Many times. 
Burned my fingers very hard by trying to use 2.0.1 (some time ago) in 
production as a store for mail files.

But now back to what I wanted to write in the first place:
I can not understand that people are complaining all the time but don't give 
any valuable information. Okay. GlusterFS is crashing in your environment. In 
one hour you have crashed it. Fine and dandy. But how about not just 
complaining but sending a stack trace? Some more info how and what you have 
tested, where it crashed, etc...

And while at it: How about YOU going to look at the code and find some real 
issues with the code and post some patches fixing the issues? Would that not be 
more productive then just posting a meaningless message to the GlusterFS 
mailing list complaining that you crashed GlusterFS in one hour with bonnie?

I am absolutely on your line regarding the stability of GlusterFS but you have 
to confess that nothing comes from just complaining. Either you are a part of 
the solution or you are a part of the problem. By just complaining but not 
helping in any way you push yourself into the corner being a part of the 
problem.

And please don't reply me with a message that you are just a user and you can't 
code or what ever. I don't think any one here cares about that fact. The least 
you can do is help fixing the issue by posting some debug info or a stack trace 
or any other valuable information regarding the crash. And if you can't do that 
or you are not willing to do that, then let me tell you that you as "just a 
user" are absolutely free to choose another solution for your distributed 
filesystem. GlusterFS is one of many solutions. Feel free to move along and 
install, try, buy, search, etc another solution but please stop posting 
messages to the ML with no real content or value.

I am in no way related to Z Research. I don't work for them and they have 
nothing to do with me. I am just an user like you. Like many others out there. 
But I can't see anymore users complaining all the time and pointing with 
fingers around but never trying to help to solve the issue.

If you need a good example of someone being a user like you and me but actually 
helping to solve open issues, then please search the ML for a user called 
"Gordan Bobic". He as well is often complaining but in a constructive way. I 
would much appreciate more users like him.


> -- 
> Regards,
> Stephan
>
Steve

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