Thanks Anand. That would be interesting to see indeed. On 17 Aug 2015 4:55 am, "Anand Subramanian" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Thibault, > > There are a few tuneables that have helped boost ganesha performance and I > suspect these tuneables on the OS side apply to improve performance for > several workloads where ganesha is concerned. (And they don't seem to be > necessary for gluster-nfs at all). > > Adding Manoj here, who may be able to point you to these configurables > (as he has experimented with the ganesha performance). > > Thanks, > Anand > > On 08/13/2015 07:13 PM, Niels de Vos wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 09:19:25AM +0100, Thibault Godouet wrote: > > Thanks Niel for your helpful answer. > > Regarding the locking, indeed that solves my issue. Now I'm wondering how > to monitor this. The best I have so far is get the list of RPC binds and > the TCP/UDP port in particular, and then run a lsof to find out if it is > Gluster. Should work, but a bit indirect. If someone knows a better way > I'd be interested to know. > > > That is almost how I do it as well. Instead of 'lsof' I use 'netstat' or > 'ss', depending on the Linux distribution. > > > As for Ganesha, I saw articles explaining that it effectively removes > layers, hence why I thought NFS v3 via Ganesha would be faster than native > Gluster NFS. Given your answer I take it there are other moving parts / > differences. Is there a general known guideline on which is best when? > E.g. does one handle better small files than the other one or something > like that? > > > I am not aware of any guidelines for this. The difference in performance > is highly dependent on the workload and use-case. There is little > difference in the layers between Gluster/NFS and NFS-Ganesha, both are > userspace nfs-server implementations (neither has context switches for > the Linux-VFS like fuse mounts have). > > If you need the best performance, you should problaby just try both > configurations, and run your intended workload against the servers. > Artificial/standard tests most often do not emulate a real workload. > > HTH, > Niels > > > > On 5 Aug 2015 7:06 pm, "Niels de Vos" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 04:11:47PM +0100, Thibault Godouet wrote: > > Looking around I get the impression that file locking (NLM) may simply > > not > > be supported in glusterfs's built-in NFS server. > > > This is actually supported. But note that you can not run a userspace > NLM implementation provided by a NFS-server (Gluster/NFS or NFS-Ganesha) > on a system that acts as an NFS-client. The Linux kernel NFS-client uses > the lockd kernel module, and there can be only one NLM implementation be > registered at rpcbind. Whichever service (nfs-client or nfs-server) > starts first, will be able to register itself, the 2nd one will (mostly > silently) fail. > > > I get the impression that Ganesha is aimed at supporting NFS better, and > presumably supports locking well, so I should give it a try (If I > understand well the performance is also likely to be higher, which is a > nice bonus!) > > > NFS-Ganesha offers more features than Gluster/NFS. The performance is > highly dependent on the workload, Gluster/NFS can be faster for many of > them. > > Cheers, > Niels > > > > > If someone could confirm this that would be useful to make sure I'm going > in the right direction. > > Thanks, > Thibault. > On 4 Aug 2015 1:23 pm, "Thibault Godouet" <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a cluster of 2 servers running 3.7.3 with replication, and > > standard > > NFS (no ganesha). This in on CentOS 6. > > I use CTDB with 2 virtual IPs (one for each server in a normal > situation) to share the volume over NFS and CIFS (samba). > > > > fnctl() file locking doesn't seem to work when the volume is mounted > > over > > NFS. > > This is apparent with a 'svn info' (svn 1.8 if it made any difference) > > in > > a local working copy: > > > > $ svn info > svn: E200033: Another process is blocking the working copy database, or > the underlying filesystem does not support file locking; if the working > copy is on a network filesystem, make sure file locking has been > > enabled on > > the file server > svn: E200033: sqlite[S5]: database is locked, executing statement > > 'PRAGMA > > synchronous=OFF;PRAGMA recursive_triggers=ON;PRAGMA > > foreign_keys=OFF;PRAGMA > > locking_mode = NORMAL;' > > > > a strace shows: > > > > $ svn info > svn: E200033: Another process is blocking the working copy database, or > the underlying filesystem does not support file locking; if the working > copy is on a network filesystem, make sure file locking has been > > enabled on > > the file server > svn: E200033: sqlite[S5]: database is locked, executing statement > > 'PRAGMA > > synchronous=OFF;PRAGMA recursive_triggers=ON;PRAGMA > > foreign_keys=OFF;PRAGMA > > locking_mode = NORMAL;' > > > > Everything seems to work fine on native Gluster (FUSE) mounts: the same > 'svn info' works nicely. > > I can't really use native mounts due to the performance hit (many small > files) and the fact I would need to install the gluster client > > software on > > every server. > > > > Is fnctl() file locking supported in Gluster NFS mounts? If so, any > > idea > > why it doesn't work for me? > > > > Thanks, > > Thibault. > > > _______________________________________________ > Gluster-users mailing > [email protected]http://www.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gluster-users mailing > [email protected]http://www.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users > > >
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