Hi Pranith,

Unfortunately, we don't have similar hardware for a small scale test. All we have is our production hardware.

Pat



On 05/11/2017 07:05 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:


On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Pat Haley <pha...@mit.edu <mailto:pha...@mit.edu>> wrote:


    Hi Pranith,

    Since we are mounting the partitions as the bricks, I tried the dd
    test writing to
    <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>. The
    results without oflag=sync were 1.6 Gb/s (faster than gluster but
    not as fast as I was expecting given the 1.2 Gb/s to the
    no-gluster area w/ fewer disks).


Okay, then 1.6Gb/s is what we need to target for, considering your volume is just distribute. Is there any way you can do tests on similar hardware but at a small scale? Just so we can run the workload to learn more about the bottlenecks in the system? We can probably try to get the speed to 1.2Gb/s on your /home partition you were telling me yesterday. Let me know if that is something you are okay to do.


    Pat



    On 05/10/2017 01:27 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:


    On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Pat Haley <pha...@mit.edu
    <mailto:pha...@mit.edu>> wrote:


        Hi Pranith,

        Not entirely sure (this isn't my area of expertise).  I'll
        run your answer by some other people who are more familiar
        with this.

        I am also uncertain about how to interpret the results when
        we also add the dd tests writing to the /home area (no
        gluster, still on the same machine)

          * dd test without oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
              o gluster w/ fuse mount : 570 Mb/s
              o gluster w/ nfs mount:  390 Mb/s
              o nfs (no gluster):  1.2 Gb/s
          * dd test with oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
              o gluster w/ fuse mount:  5 Mb/s
              o gluster w/ nfs mount:  200 Mb/s
              o nfs (no gluster): 20 Mb/s

        Given that the non-gluster area is a RAID-6 of 4 disks while
        each brick of the gluster area is a RAID-6 of 32 disks, I
        would naively expect the writes to the gluster area to be
        roughly 8x faster than to the non-gluster.


    I think a better test is to try and write to a file using nfs
    without any gluster to a location that is not inside the brick
    but someother location that is on same disk(s). If you are
    mounting the partition as the brick, then we can write to a file
    inside .glusterfs directory, something like
    <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>.


        I still think we have a speed issue, I can't tell if fuse vs
        nfs is part of the problem.


    I got interested in the post because I read that fuse speed is
    lesser than nfs speed which is counter-intuitive to my
    understanding. So wanted clarifications. Now that I got my
    clarifications where fuse outperformed nfs without sync, we can
    resume testing as described above and try to find what it is.
    Based on your email-id I am guessing you are from Boston and I am
    from Bangalore so if you are okay with doing this debugging for
    multiple days because of timezones, I will be happy to help.
    Please be a bit patient with me, I am under a release crunch but
    I am very curious with the problem you posted.

        Was there anything useful in the profiles?


    Unfortunately profiles didn't help me much, I think we are
    collecting the profiles from an active volume, so it has a lot of
    information that is not pertaining to dd so it is difficult to
    find the contributions of dd. So I went through your post again
    and found something I didn't pay much attention to earlier i.e.
    oflag=sync, so did my own tests on my setup with FUSE so sent
    that reply.


        Pat



        On 05/10/2017 12:15 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
        Okay good. At least this validates my doubts. Handling
        O_SYNC in gluster NFS and fuse is a bit different.
        When application opens a file with O_SYNC on fuse mount then
        each write syscall has to be written to disk as part of the
        syscall where as in case of NFS, there is no concept of
        open. NFS performs write though a handle saying it needs to
        be a synchronous write, so write() syscall is performed
        first then it performs fsync(). so an write on an fd with
        O_SYNC becomes write+fsync. I am suspecting that when
        multiple threads do this write+fsync() operation on the same
        file, multiple writes are batched together to be written do
        disk so the throughput on the disk is increasing is my guess.

        Does it answer your doubts?

        On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Pat Haley <pha...@mit.edu
        <mailto:pha...@mit.edu>> wrote:


            Without the oflag=sync and only a single test of each,
            the FUSE is going faster than NFS:

            FUSE:
            mseas-data2(dri_nascar)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096
            bs=1048576 of=zeros.txt conv=sync
            4096+0 records in
            4096+0 records out
            4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 7.46961 s, 575 MB/s


            NFS
            mseas-data2(HYCOM)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096
            bs=1048576 of=zeros.txt conv=sync
            4096+0 records in
            4096+0 records out
            4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 11.4264 s, 376 MB/s



            On 05/10/2017 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
            Could you let me know the speed without oflag=sync on
            both the mounts? No need to collect profiles.

            On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Pat Haley
            <pha...@mit.edu <mailto:pha...@mit.edu>> wrote:


                Here is what I see now:

                [root@mseas-data2 ~]# gluster volume info

                Volume Name: data-volume
                Type: Distribute
                Volume ID: c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18
                Status: Started
                Number of Bricks: 2
                Transport-type: tcp
                Bricks:
                Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1
                Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2
                Options Reconfigured:
                diagnostics.count-fop-hits: on
                diagnostics.latency-measurement: on
                nfs.exports-auth-enable: on
                diagnostics.brick-sys-log-level: WARNING
                performance.readdir-ahead: on
                nfs.disable: on
                nfs.export-volumes: off



                On 05/10/2017 11:44 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
                Is this the volume info you have?

                >/[root at mseas-data2
                <http://www.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users>
                ~]# gluster volume info />//>/Volume Name: data-volume />/Type: Distribute />/Volume ID: 
c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18 />/Status: Started />/Number of Bricks: 2 />/Transport-type: tcp 
/>/Bricks: />/Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1 />/Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2 />/Options Reconfigured: 
/>/performance.readdir-ahead: on />/nfs.disable: on />/nfs.export-volumes: off /
                ​I copied this from old thread from 2016. This is
                distribute volume. Did you change any of the
                options in between?

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            Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
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-- Pranith
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        Pat Haley                          Email:pha...@mit.edu 
<mailto:pha...@mit.edu>
        Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
        Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
        MIT, Room 5-213http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
        77 Massachusetts Avenue
        Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

-- Pranith
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    Pat Haley                          Email:pha...@mit.edu 
<mailto:pha...@mit.edu>
    Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
    Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
    MIT, Room 5-213http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/
    77 Massachusetts Avenue
    Cambridge, MA  02139-4301

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Pranith
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Center for Ocean Engineering       Phone:  (617) 253-6824
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    Fax:    (617) 253-8125
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77 Massachusetts Avenue
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