You're putting words into my mouth... I never said it was pointless, I said
I didn't see the point.  Just cause one person does not see it, does not
make it pointless, and I intentionally stated it that way on purpose.  Your
analogy of a car without an engine is inaccurate.  The email engine is the
ability to send and receive mail, GMail absolutely does this.  A more
appropriate analogy could be a car's GPS that automatically plots your
route back home every time you start it and are not at home already.  Some
people would consider this very important, others handy, and some, useless
and annoying.  I'd be in the annoying category, (both the analogy and the
BCC) but would have no problem with it being an option that the others
could turn on.

I, too, share an e-mail address with my wife, and have absolutely no
problem manually BCC'ing the account when I need her to see the messages.
 Did you see the message from Kenneth, that might work as a solution as
well.

Again, words in my mouth, I never claimed to represent the world, or a
standard to measure against.  But since you bring it up, I *HAVE* seen bugs
fixed, and features added, both as standard features and as labs... I've
also seen labs that *I* found very helpful and useful go away because not
enough people did.  That's the nature of the beast.

There has never been an official group for suggestions of features, only
the labs ever used groups as suggestion points.  The Help page "suggest a
feature" has been there since the beginning, and has always been the only
way to ensure Google sees your suggestion.  Since you believe I'm calling
myself the ultimate authority, I should say that not all suggestions, that
I or others have made, are implemented.

Online petitions of over 10,000 signatures often fall on deaf ears, so I'd
suspect 673 signatures hasn't even piqued an interest, but lest I be
accused again, I am not a Google employee, expert, or world representative.
 I merely represent my personal opinion, based on 8 years of GMail usage,
and 20 years of data networking, but it's just my opinion.


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Peter Bowers <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Friday, January 25, 2013 4:28:00 AM UTC+1, Zack Tennant wrote:
>
>> I disagree completely.  This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly
>> broken", and not a basic flaw.  If you are using the web interface, you
>> always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of
>> BCC'ing yourself.  If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to
>> have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
>>
> I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen
>> the point.  And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would
>> need to on EVERY e-mail.  If you want an occasional one, you can manually
>> do it.
>>
>
> So because you've never needed the feature then it's a pointless feature?!
>  There's a reason why the vast majority of email clients support this
> feature -- lots of people NEED it.  Can they work around it using something
> like your suggested offline client with IMAP?  Yes.  But if I had a car
> with no engine I could still push it down the road but that wouldn't keep
> me from suggesting that they add the engine -- and it wouldn't stop me from
> saying that the lack of an engine was a flaw in the design!
>
> My wife and I have separate gmail accounts fed by a single forwarding
> address so that we get the same copies of all incoming emails.  That leaves
> our inboxes sync'd, but I'd like out "sent mail' to be sync'd as well.  I
> would like to set up an auto-BCC using plus addressing and filters so that
> all my sent mail and all her sent mail automatically goes into the other
> person's sent mail for searchability.
>
> You'll note there is no offline client here and we're not dealing with
> some complex business situation.  Just a simple situation with a couple who
> would like their "sent mail" folders to be sync'd as well as their inboxes.
>  It is normal, basic functionality for email clients and gmail's lack of it
> is a shortcoming/flaw.
>
>
>> Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it.
>>  And, how many times have you suggested it to Google?  Many of the features
>> I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct
>> feature.
>>
>
> And just because you personally don't need a feature doesn't mean you
> represent the world or are the new "standard" by which all others must
> measure themselves.
>
> I have personally suggested this to gmail roughly 25 times in the
> appropriate group over a period of several years in addition to asking
> friends to do the same in addition to signing the online petition to have
> the feature (673 signatures to date -- see
> http://www.petitiononline.com/gmailbcc/petition.html)
>
> To date, as far as I can tell, zero/zip/nada from the google team.
>
> -Peter
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