Frank, The official place for suggestions has always been tied to the help pages and/or "gear" icon. I just checked and now from the gear I have a specific "Send Feedback" While I have never heard of Google sending back a personal response "Zack, thanks for your suggestion...", I have heard of many suggestions, including ones I've made, getting implemented. In fact, something I suggested a couple months ago recently came into use (having to do with calendar and gmail integration.
I make it a point to be very clear with my suggestions, including specific details about problems found, or suggestions on how one might add the feature I wanted. I'm sure that helps them to prioritize what changes they make. One method used is to discuss your wordings here. And false statements like "everyone else does it" don't help your case. Online petitions don't help, they're too easy to fake results. Rest assured, Google turned on POP and IMAP to give user's options, so you're welcome to continue using it in a way that you're comfortable with. On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Frank St. Claire <fstcla...@gmail.com>wrote: > Zack/(Doc): My comment was not meant to be critical of anyone here > (including yourself). The thrust of my commentary was the apparent > recalcitrance of Google to address the problem. > > BTW, I will be glad to make an "official request" to Google if you or > someone else would direct me to the most effective way to do so. However, > having done this in the past with at least one "official suggestion" for > Youtube sign-ins, no response was ever forthcoming from Google and I doubt > any would occur in this suggested effort. From what I see, Google pretty > much does whatever it wants to do with little influence from its users. In > other words, the attitude seems to be "Google knows best." > > What might make more sense than some of us sending to Google unorganized > ad hoc suggestions to this problem (which seems to be ongoing for years now > and is both unsolved by users here (who do try to help) and by Google > (which seems to be unwillingly to address the issue) might be to initiate a > petition here of users who do feel this is a serious issue that needs to be > addressed and submit that petition to Google. Maybe someone more talented > than myself could start such a petition drive by creating a Youtube video > that might go viral. Maybe then, and only then, Google might pay attention. > > Until that happens, many of us will continue to use IMAP-configured > third-party email programs such as Mozilla Thunderbird for sending email > and simply avoid Gmail's web-based email facility. If that's what they > want, that's what they will get. > > It's a sad commentary on a company that in general has done so much good. > > Thank you for your response. > > > > > On 5/23/2013 7:08 AM, Zack (Doc) wrote: > > Turning off conversation view has been an option for a long time now, and > it is the result of Google listening to peoples suggestions (call them > complaints if you like, I prefer to work with people, not against them), > and is proof the Google does listen to it's users. However, those > suggestions need to be made through the right place, the official > suggestion page, not postings in a user's group that has never been an > official source for company solved problems. As a user's group, we're just > fellow users like yourself, offering suggestions and help for situations > you propose (and general discussion if that is what you wish). > > If you don't want suggestions from fellow users, then you are free to > unsubscribe. If you don't like a particular poster's methods or attitude, > you are free to ignore them, or if it's bad enough, contact the list owner > at the link provided on the group's web page. > > > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Frank St. Claire <fstcla...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Every reply (most of which seem to come from "Zac") dance around the >> problem, which is pretty simple: >> >> *1. You want to have a copy of each email you send sent to yourself as >> if you had manually listed yourself as a bcc recipient -- which is gets >> very old to do manually after you've done it for awhile.* >> 2. While almost every email service (e.g., Mozilla Thunderbird with IMAP >> settings) provides such an option, Gmail apparently does not -- despite >> years of everyone's pleas. >> 3. *You don't want to use conversation mode* -- which some find >> distracting AND >> 4. *You don't want to have to search your "sent" folder for a copy of >> your own email sent to others* (see item 1 above). >> >> and for clarification, this question is NOT: >> >> 1. related to CRM (I don't care whatever that is and don't want to know) >> or >> 2. a philosophical issue. >> >> and finally: >> >> 1. Does Google listen to their users or has it turned a deaf ear to a >> legitimate multi-year request? >> 2. BTW, we accepted Google's limitation of two levels of "nesting" of >> mail folders with its multiple "labels" -- which is probably due to a limit >> in Gmail's design architecture, but >> 3. If this current issue (i.e., *see item 1 in the first paragraph* if >> you forgot to read it there or didn't fully comprehend the simple scope of >> this query) is a design issue here, either: >> a. fix it or >> b. "cowboy-up" to the problem -- instead of using what appear to be >> stalking horse apologists in this user group to qualm the incessantly >> beating drums of discontent from some of your most ardent supporters over >> this simple question. >> >> Thanks in advance to anyone who has the courage and intelligence to >> address this issue directly as presented above (i.e., *see item 1 in the >> first paragraph* above if you have not done so by now) without any of >> the tangential responses evidenced by this multi-year thread to date. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/22/2013 2:25 AM, Jeremy Nicholls wrote: >> >> Can it really be true? I was looking for how to auto-BCC outgoing emails >> from Gmail, but it never occurred to me that this feature might not be >> available. Bizarre. 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