Guys, thank you for the kindness. I'm now getting somewhere. Sorry I was such a pain.
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(Minder storend kan ik hem helaas niet maken) On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:19 PM, || ΣΖΟ || <manostie...@gmail.com> wrote: > thanks Zack, > > Ok when you are able to log in and then are still aware of where Google > hides the stuff. > But for someone who gets locked out 100% that still would not work. > > I used the feedback option in adsense the other day , but without feedback > to me it still feels like writing on a wall in a dark alley. > > > > > *Disclaimer* > De informatie in dit e-mailbericht is alleen bestemd voor de > geadresseerde. Gebruik door anderen is verboden. Als dit bericht niet voor > u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht dit aan de afzender te melden. De afzender > kan niet garanderen dat dit bericht juist, tijdig, volledig en virusvrij > wordt overgebracht en kan hiervoor niet aansprakelijk worden gesteld. > Externe e-mail wordt niet gebruikt voor het aangaan van verplichtingen. > > The information in this e-mail is intended solely for the addressee. Use > is prohibited by others. If this message is not intended for you, you are > requested to inform the sender. The sender can not guarantee that this > message correctly, timely, fully and freely transmitted virus and can not > be held responsible. External e-mail is not used for entering into > commitments. > > (Minder storend kan ik hem helaas niet maken) > > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Jeff Grossman <j...@stikman.com> wrote: > >> I just did a Google Search for "Gmail Support" and the first link was the >> Gmail Help Page (https://support.google.com/mail/?hl=en#topic=3394144). >> That page offers lots of helpful links. On the right side of that page is >> a link that says Help Forum ( >> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/gmail) which sends you to >> the official Gmail support page. With two clicks you should have been able >> to find the official Gmail support page. I'm not sure if Google >> representatives are active on that page, but I would venture to guess that >> they do. >> >> I don't agree that Google should give away direct support for their free >> products. Find me another company that offers free direct support for a >> free product they are offering. You are going to be hard pressed to find >> something like that. >> >> We have a pretty nice group of friendly users on this list that are >> always willing to offer assistance. But, the person with the issue needs >> to understand that we are just users like they are they need to give as >> much information about the problem as they can so we can help. It is all >> in how the question is presented. >> >> Jeff >> >> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 4:38 AM, || ΣΖΟ || <manostie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> And if you do search for 'gmail support' do you then find any real >>> support? >>> Where you can ask a real question to a real person? >>> >>> All the links I get send you around in circles. >>> >>> >>> So you really think that someone who is pissed and looking for support >>> for a long time will even bother to search for and read a whole page of >>> yadda yadda? >>> Really? Sure the rules where there, I never came across them, I didn't >>> even know there where rules. >>> >>> And ok they are now a great thing to put me in a corner. >>> With many BILLIONS of ads in all those hundreds of millions of Gmail >>> accounts there sure will be a budget for support. >>> And the ads are not the only thing google uses to monetise on its users. >>> So I'm sorry, I don't agree. With all the 'automated self support' they >>> offer there for sure should be room for questions that the support system >>> didn't cover.... >>> >>> With all the money and technology that google has in house you don't >>> have to make an excuse for them to not being able to do this and use money >>> as a reason. $5/month is just fee to remove ads distractions. So they >>> should be just as happy with the money they now make with the ads in the >>> accounts. >>> >>> >>> But ok, you made your point. Though I do hope that somehow google looks >>> into this and finds a decent solution. >>> Even Chinese websites have better support... It's also a mess, but they >>> at least managed to offer real support. Even for non critical questions. >>> >>> Now don't say that manpower is cheaper there... :-) It is, but that's >>> not the point. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Disclaimer* >>> De informatie in dit e-mailbericht is alleen bestemd voor de >>> geadresseerde. 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External e-mail is not used for entering into >>> commitments. >>> >>> (Minder storend kan ik hem helaas niet maken) >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Marko Vukovic <marko.vuko...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 1:59 AM, || ΣΖΟ || <manostie...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm no longer pissed, but Google still has room for improvements. >>>>> It is not my fault that google has a lax approch when it comes to >>>>> support. For that reason I landed in the wrong forum... >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know how you managed that, if I do a Google search for 'gmail >>>> support', I do not get this group in the results, at all. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sorry to be a burden, but i'm certainly not the last who will end up >>>>> here by 'accident' >>>>> And also not the last one who is going to be pissed ... >>>>> >>>>> I agree you can't help it either. but Google can... So lets hope that >>>>> google reads along and looks for a solution so that other people don't >>>>> HAVE >>>>> to drop in by accident, pissed, cursing and ranting. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I have been on this list for some years now, nobody has just dropped >>>> in here by accident doing that. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have not noticed any tagline, but ok again, it was there somewhere. >>>>> And in my email it is not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You might want to look at the list rules too. >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail-users/qxjXDb5zpP4 >>>> >>>> >>>>> So, it this issue was some kind of attack, then the person who did it >>>>> had a bit of a succes... But it would have been cooler if that person >>>>> would have send me an email. Now I still don't know why it happened. And >>>>> i >>>>> could then have looked to solve the problem. >>>>> Just like Google could have solved something if they would have been >>>>> more easy to reach. (May I call that evil?) >>>>> >>>> >>>> It's pretty simple. With hundreds of millions of free Gmail users, >>>> there is no way to offer direct support. >>>> For $5/month, you get direct support and no ads. 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