I second this, very strongly. I wrestled with GROMACS for literally a week trying to figure out the PME bug, and would really have appreciated being able to easily learn about it.

The best solution to this, in my mind, is a 3.3.1 release with known bugs patched. If this is unlikely to happen soon, I think I'll make my own unofficial one (perhaps with extra goodies such as the ported AMBER force fields). Are there any other sources of information about known bugs/patches other than bugzilla.gromacs.org and CVS?

--Tom

On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:32 AM, David Mobley wrote:

Regarding the PME bug, I know I've said this before, but I think it
would be a lot easier for people to find out about these things if
there were a single page somewhere on the site that lists all of the
known bugs with each version (and preferably their symptoms) and
possibly also links to fixes. If I were a new user and just
downloading 3.3 for the first time, I don't know how I would know that
there is a bug with PME without searching the archives of the mailing
list. Maybe even the 3.3 source available to download could be updated
with patches every so often? Again, I'm just a bit nervous that people
may be having problems due to *known bugs* in 3.3 simply because there
is no easy way to find out about these bugs or their solutions.

David

On 3/29/06, David van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tom Joseph wrote:
Curiously, what is pme_order set to in your mdp file? I experienced a
very similar problem as you did when I had set pme_order to 6, and I
don't know why...
it's a known bug, please fetch the new pme.c from the ftp site.

--Tom

On Mar 28, 2006, at 10:28 PM, raja wrote:

Hi gmxs,
      No reply yet for this posting, so I reposting the same
      error...Please give me the direction.
With thanks !
B.Nataraj

The Error part
################################################################### #######################################

step 0
Step 10, time 0.02 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 0.002406 (between atoms 2664 and 2666) rms 0.000090
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
   2664   2665   31.5    0.1090   0.1091      0.1090
step 30, will finish at Tue Mar 28 14:14:30 2006
Step 38, time 0.076 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 0.296349 (between atoms 2576 and 2577) rms 0.004434
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
   2576   2577   90.0    0.1090   0.1413      0.1090
   2578   2579   90.0    0.1090   0.1180      0.1090

Step 39, time 0.078 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 4821.659668 (between atoms 2584 and 2585) rms 70.115692
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
   2557   2559  104.4    0.1450   0.5221      0.1449
   2559   2560   87.2    0.1090   0.5446      0.1090
   2559   2561  118.5    0.1530   0.5012      0.1529
   2559   2572   99.8    0.1523   1.4141      0.1522
   2561   2562   82.9    0.1090   0.0423      0.1090
   2561   2563   69.9    0.1091   0.0341      0.1090
   2561   2564   34.2    0.1529   0.0840      0.1529
   2572   2573   88.1    0.1231   1.5691      0.1229
   2572   2574  110.8    0.1335   6.8042      0.1335
   2574   2575  106.0    0.1010   6.5640      0.1010
   2574   2576   81.3    0.1456   8.8651      0.1449
   2576   2577   41.1    0.1413   5.5404      0.1090
   2576   2578  112.6    0.1532  12.6753      0.1529
   2576   2588  100.3    0.1526  10.1017      0.1522
   2578   2579   87.1    0.1180  54.2609      0.1090
   2578   2580   92.4    0.1534  18.2981      0.1529
   2578   2584   88.1    0.1538  35.5616      0.1529
   2580   2581   89.1    0.1092   1.3620      0.1090
   2580   2582   90.1    0.1090   1.4119      0.1090
   2580   2583   88.1    0.1091   1.2295      0.1090
   2584   2585   90.0    0.1090 525.6699      0.1090
   2584   2586   91.5    0.1089  23.0823      0.1090
   2584   2587   92.0    0.1089  22.9080      0.1090
   2588   2589  104.3    0.1229   3.1250      0.1229
   2588   2590  115.1    0.1335   2.8415      0.1335
   2590   2591  109.1    0.1450   0.9337      0.1449
   2590   2599  108.6    0.1450   0.9203      0.1449
   2591   2592  112.4    0.1090   0.3062      0.1090
   2591   2593  108.3    0.1529   0.2859      0.1529
   2591   2602  120.1    0.1522   0.2576      0.1522
   2593   2594   43.8    0.1090   0.1570      0.1090
   2593   2595   45.3    0.1090   0.1562      0.1090
   2596   2597   30.6    0.1090   0.1273      0.1090
   2596   2598   41.2    0.1090   0.1451      0.1090
   2596   2599   96.6    0.1529   0.1996      0.1529
   2599   2600  133.4    0.1090   0.2447      0.1090
   2599   2601  135.4    0.1090   0.2755      0.1090
   2602   2603   32.1    0.1229   0.1593      0.1229
   2602   2604   32.6    0.1335   0.1740      0.1335
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
################################################################### ############################

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