Hi Mark thanks for your reply,

I'm not sure the problem is that these restraints are inappropriate, but the problem might be the sheer number. For example if i restrain a fairly large number of atom distances (say 100 Calpha distances) to the same length they are in the structure after minimisation and position restrained MD then mdrun still crashes, even if i use a very weak force for the restraint.

I have also been playing round trying to fix the problem and have noticed from the mailing list that inconsistent shifts are seen when people are using infinite systems and have not set pbc=full. I know i am not using the kind of system but setting pbc=full does not result these problems that i see when i use pbc=xyz. Is pbc=full reasonable to use for production runs and does anyone know roughly how much slower it is (time is quite important as i have a large system)

Thanks again

Tom

--On 06 March 2007 09:57 +1100 Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to apply a set of harmonic distance restraints between pairs
of
protein atoms in my system, which is protein/ligand/water/ions in a
periodic box.

The way i am doing this is to use the bond type 6 and to add these bonds
at
the end of the [bonds] section in my topology file, after the system has
been energy minimised and i have performed position restrained MD,
without these harmonic distance restraints.

I can then run it through grompp with no problems and start mdrun. If i
only have a few (ie less than about 30) harmonic distance restraints then
the simulation if fine and runs happily. However if i increase the number
of restraints then mdrun crashes due to lincs warnings and it also says
that the are inconsistent shifts, (the number of inconsistent shifts
varies
depending on which atoms i choose to restrain and also the number of
atoms chosen) a warning not seen with less harmonic distance restraints.

Why do you need more harmonic restraints?

I should also say that i have run this system without these harmonic
restraints without problems for tens of nanoseconds already. Also this
problem can be repeated if i try to use the [distance_restraints] however
it requires less restraints to get the inconsistent shift warning (and
lincs problems) this way.

If anyone can give me an idea of what is causing this problem it would be
warmly appreciated, or even just how to detect which of the harmonic
distance restraints will cause the problem before i run mdrun so i can
replace the problem 'bonds' in the topology file.

You can't tell a priori, but if you watch the trajectory you should start
to get an idea what is breaking where and this will narrow down the number
of inappropriate restraints.

Mark

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