As I understand it, Blue Matter is a very stripped down laboratory code, so I think the scaling is the only large virtue that one would want to acquire.

At 02:06 AM 4/7/2007, you wrote:
Eric Jakobsson wrote:
Not a direct response but a thought: Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a code that combined the best qualities of Gromacs and Blue Matter? Is it possible to assemble a group or community of people to do that?
Erik L. has been in touch with IBM about their 3D FFT routines, but apparently they pointed out that there is already another FFTW based library that is even better, so we'll be trying that. Apart from that, I do not know too much about Blue matter. The IBM website boasts about scaling, which looks great indeed, but it doesn't say anything about absolute performance (ns/day), which may be in the papers of course.

We are currently in the process of writing up a paper on the absolute performance of the gromacs development version, and even if GROMACS doesn't reach the same absolute performance as Blue matter (which it may!) it gives a lot more bang for the buck in terms of hardware costs.

But to further the discussion: is there anything else in Blue matter that would be interesting to have implemented into GROMACS?
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David.
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