Hi Jones,
Charge-on-spring model is another name for shell model.
Here's what's written in the introduction of the paper:
[...]in the charge-on-spring (or Drude-oscillator or shell) model, an
additional point charge is attached to a polarizable center that
can adapt its position to the electric field to induce a net
dipole.[...]
Ciao,

Patrick

Jones de Andrade a écrit :
Hi Patrick.

Just got this paper here, thanks for the indication.

This may sound like a dumb question, but: am I wrong, or the "shell model" and the "charge on a spring model" differ only by the fact that the VdW interation is also "floating aroung" in the "shell model" but not in the "charge on a spring" one?

Thanks a lot,

Jones

On 5/21/07, *Patrick Fuchs* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Hi,
    there's a very recent paper of the GROMOS team, where they evaluate the
    free energy of polarization (with the 'Charge-on-Spring' model):
    http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jpcbfk/asap/abs/jp0706477.html
    <http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jpcbfk/asap/abs/jp0706477.html>
    Their code is already working, but under the GROMOS software...
    Ciao,

    Patrick

    Jones de Andrade a écrit :
     > Hi David
     >
     >     They have published a few paper on water and alcohols. The
    charm crew
     >     have done a few more. Amber is actually split into two IIRC,
    with point
     >     dipoles as well as shell models (that means either or).
     >
     >
     > I've found two papers for charmm polariability. But I'll only be
    able to
     > try to find it in the library or to ask for the authors tomorrow at
     > least. But thanks for the information!  ;)
     >
     > On the other hand, I could not yet find any published material from
     > amber using shell models. Is this only an "inside group" discussion?
     >
     >     I think there is not a lot of difference, but shell models
    are easier to
     >     implement.
     >
     >
     > I think too. In reality, there is no "visible rational reason"
    for this
     > fear of me, is more like a "feeling", so I'll try to find
    something more
     > on it.
     >
     > But I do agree that it's much likely that the shell model is much
    easier
     > to implement, if not faster to execute also. :)
     >
     >     I am working on shell models a bit (not enough...)
     >
     >
     > Me too. Specially cause this is long terms plans (2+ years from now).
     >
     > But thanks a lot for all information, David. Helped a lot.
     >
     > Sincerally yours,
     >
     > Jones
     >
     >
     >
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