Your system will explode.
Actually I'm not sure, why that is, but probably, because some forces from the bonded terms are transferred to your mass-zero particle, which then accelerates infinitly fast...even though I would expect some division over zero error in the velocity calculation...

Maik Goette, Dipl. Biol.
Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Theoretical & computational biophysics department
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Wang Qin wrote:
Thank you, Maik.
I do want to do standard FEP and thank you for telling me that FEP don't go with virtual sites. It does help.
BTW, may I ask you why I should define a none_zero mass for a dummy atom?

Thanks,
Qin

On 8/8/07, *Maik Goette* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Friend...

    What are you trying to do???
    If you want to do standard FEP with growing something into dummy (NOT
    virtual site) or from dummy, you must not use virtual sites!
    Virtual sites in fact, have no mass; neither in A- nor in B-state.
    Please read the fManual about virtual particles, their usage and why
    they exist in GROMACS (hint, delocalized charge)....

    As far as I know, you can't morph a virtual site to a real particle. I
    also think, It wouldn't make much sense, though.

    If you want to morph away e.g. a proton, define a dummy in the b-state,
    which has no LJ parameters (eps and sigma=0) and no charge, but still
    the original mass.

    Regards

    Maik Goette, Dipl. Biol.
    Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
    Theoretical & computational biophysics department
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    37077 Goettingen
    Germany
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    Wang Qin wrote:
     > Hi,
     >    Thanks for reply. It seems that specifying mass_B = mass_A doesn't
     > help to solve the problem. However, if I don't use the directory
     > [virtual_site#] the errors disappear! What's the result if I do
    this?
     > Is the directory necessary  in the FEP  calculation  to define
    the dummy
     > atoms?
     >     Thanks,
     > Qin
     >
     > On 7/20/07, *Stéphane Téletchéa* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
     > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
     >
     >     Wang Qin a écrit :
     >      > Hi there,
     >      >         I have a problems when I do a FEP calculation.
     >      >         Below is how I defined dummy atoms in the topology
    file:
     >      > [atom]
     >      > ;nr     type            resnr   residue atom    cgnr    charge
     >      > mass            type_B  charge_B        mass_B
     >      > 21      opls_172        1       LG6     H21     21      0.4650
     >      > 1.00800         opls_0          0.0000  0.000000
     >      > 22      opls_172        1       LG6     H22     22      0.4650
     >      > 1.00800         opls_0          0.0000  0.000000
     >      > ......
     >      >
     >
     >     I think you need to specify the mass_B=mass_A, at least this
    is how it
     >     is setup in the tutorials i've done (the one from Berk Hess
    and the
     >     other one from David Mobley).
     >
     >     I've also done calculations without setting the mass for B
    (like you
     >     did) and did not encounter any problem, the error you're
    seing could
     >     thus come from another part of your system.
     >
     >     Cheers,
     >     Stéphane
     >
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