Please make sure you're including the gmx-users listserv on your replies. That way, others can weigh in; they may have better ideas than me!

So what you're saying, is if you give: "pdb2gmx -f input.pdb -merge" you get the error you mentioned before:

Fatal Error:
Atom H1 in residue PHE 22 not found in rtp entry with 17 atoms
            while sorting atoms. Maybe different protonation state.
            Remove this hydrogen or choose a different protonation state.
            Option -ignh will ignore all hydrogens in the input.

Is that correct? If so, it seems like someone has been playing with your .hdb or .rtp files. If you have no H atoms in your input, then something else very weird is going on...

-Justin

rams rams wrote:
Dear Justin,

Thanks for your quick replies. But in my starting input pdb I am not keeping any of the Hydrogen atoms. I have only the heavy atoms in my pdb to start with. All the hydrogens are added by the gromacs. Also I didnt face this problem when I am treating the two chains as separate one (i.e., if i am not using -merge command ofcourse in that case I couldnt see any inter disulphide bonds).

Ram.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:



    rams rams wrote:

        Hi,

        If I use -ignh, that will ignore all the hydrogens in my
        input. And these hydrogens are added by the gromacs.in
        <http://gromacs.in> <http://gromacs.in> the first step of
        creating the top file.


    What is gromacs.in <http://gromacs.in>?  Perhaps it would be best
    if you showed us, step by step, what you are doing (with *exact*
    command lines).
    Using pdb2gmx should be your first step, and using -ignh will
    indeed ignore your hydrogen atoms, but it looks like they're named
    incorrectly anyway, so that might be a good thing.  Part of the
    function of pdb2gmx is to add back the appropriate hydrogens
    according to residue templates, so it's irrelevant what you have
    in the input; it's going to be replaced with correct hydrogen
    atoms anyway.

    -Justin

        Ram.


        On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
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           rams rams wrote:

               Dear Tsjerk,

               Thanks for the suggestion but when I use -merge command it
               says segmentation error. Let me put the problem in a more
               elaborated way.

               I am running this simulation on insulin. It has two
        chains "a"
               and "b" which are independent fragments but there are two
               inter disulphide bonds between the two chains. If I
         keep the
               two chains as a single molecule (as -merge command does)
               gromacs could recognize the inter dishlphide bonds but
        while
               running the following error appears:

                  396    398  113.3    0.1470   0.2974      0.1470
                  398    399   93.1    0.1530   0.4267      0.1530
                  399    400   45.5    0.1230   0.1693      0.1230
                  399    401   46.5    0.1330   0.1881      0.1330
               Step=    2, Dmax= 5.0e-03 nm, Epot= -3.06153e+22 Fmax=
                       inf, atom= 25
               -------------------------------------------------------
               Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
               Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226

               Range checking error:
               Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each
        particle
               to a grid
               based on its coordinates. If your system contains
        collisions
               or parameter
               errors that give particles very high velocities you
        might end
               up with some
               coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number).
        Obviously,
               we cannot
               put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect
        those
               errors.
               Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that
               the potential
               energy seems reasonable before trying again.

               Variable ci has value -2147483648. It should have been
        within
               [ 0 .. 1000 ]
               Please report this to the mailing list
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           When do you get this error (i.e., minimization, equilibration,
           production)?  Usually this type of error comes up from a poorly
           minimized/equilibrated structure.
           I agree with Tsjerk that using -merge is the right way to form
           your disulfide, so I assume something else is going wrong
        during
           your system preparation.  If you'd like to provide details
        on what
           you're doing in terms of minimization/equilibration, and the
           contents of the relevant .mdp files, we may be able to detect
           problems.

           -Justin

               Where as, if I keep these two as separate molecules it
        couldnt
               recognize the two inter disulphide bonds but its
        running. Now
               it is adding hydrogens to the sulhur atoms.

               Is there any way to fix this problem ? Is there any way to
               edit the topology file to remove the added hydrogen atoms ?

               Thanks
               Ram.

               On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar
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                  Hi Ram,

                  Check the option -merge of pdb2gmx.

                  Cheers,

                  Tsjerk

                  On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:11 AM, rams rams
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               wrote:
                  > Dear Gromacs users,
                  >
                  > Is there any way to handle the disulphide bond formed
               between two
                  > independent fragments of a protein ? Precisely it
        is an inter
                  disulphide
                  > bond between two fragments. If I keep the two
        fragments as
                  separate objects
                  > while preparing the pdb file (using TER between
        the two
                  fragments), gromacs
                  > is not asking for the formation of a disulphide
        bond. If
               I keep
                  them as a
                  > single object while preparing the input pdb,
        gromacs could
                  recognize the
                  > disulphide bond but while running the energy
        minimization its
                  complaining
                  > that the distances are too close.
                  >
                  > Is there any way to handle these ? I am also thinking
               like keep
                  them as
                  > separate objects and imposing positional restraints on
               both the
                  sulphur
                  > atoms. Is it all right to do that way ?
                  >
                  > Please suggest me some thing how to handle these ?
                  >
                  > Ram.
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