Kirill Bessonov wrote:
I think I have not arrived to complete solution of my problem yet, but I think the cause of early LINCS warnings were version incompatibility. I am now trying to run simulation on the server that has only 4.0.5 Gromacs, will see if that helps and whether I will warnings in the middle of simulations.

I have tried PR simulation on peptide and it failed even earlier (after 10,000 steps), maybe this indicates version issues, as I would assume PR simulations are more stable as they does not allow peptide to enter DMPC layer ....


Right; rule out the version as a problem first.

So after 20 ns of simulation on the server with Gromacs 4.0 I've started to get errors and LINCS warnings and simulation collapsed, I have resumed simualtion as per oldwiki instructions, but again it soon failed. After looking at the trajectory with VMD I see that the peptide "sinks" into DMPC and one phenyl ring flips out (Phe residue). Maybe due to local constrains and being surrounded by DMPC the errors start coming up. I am not sure. I will do the movie and post it on youtube as ato show you what is going on.


So does this "sinking" behavior always correlate with a LINCS crash? Or is the crashing sporadic? I wouldn't base any conclusions based on 4.0 simulations - get results from 4.0.5 before diagnosing.

Why does the system fails after 10,578,600 steps? Is there way to ignore LINCS warnings and make simulation run anyways, if yes how?


LINCS warnings cannot be ignored. They indicate instability in the system, either because of a bug (one that I identified in version < 4.0.2), or because your method of running the simulation is incorrect (force field, .mdp parameters, system preparation, etc). Note that I commented on your treatment of temperature and pressure coupling, as well as COM motion removal previously as being potentially problematic.

I was not sure what to try next. Try to do several EM steps to get system to 500 kJ/mol, right now it is at 800 kJ/mol?


It may or may not be feasible to achieve an Fmax this low. I think 800 is fine; many systems that run stably do not even get this low, in my own experience.

Or try to do longer equilibration steps by restraining protein using posre.itp file included in topology as per your tutorial?


I really think proper equilibration is necessary (with restraints on the protein). Never have I seen anyone report in the literature, "following energy minimization, unrestrained simulations were initiated and data collection begun." I would seriously question that methodology (see my comments in previous messages).

-Justin

Thanks for your time.


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