On 1/10/10 9:47 PM, Jack Shultz wrote:
Thanks Justin,
I went back to the original pdb files. These were conformations of the
same protein derived from molecular dynamics simulations performed by
Andrey.
What I intially attempted was preping the structures using tleap, hoping
to paint in missing atoms for residues. Then use this to replace

Well, it seems that you may be hoping for too much :) Your log file shows a whole bunch of failures that look to be related to some early processing of your structure, and other warnings about close contacts detected in tleap.

I think you may need to start with an actual intact structure, or else coax your preparation steps to make this happen. I am not too familiar with tleap and sleap, do they magically fix missing atoms?

-Justin

non-standard residues
sed s/PRO\ A\ \ \ 1/NPROA\ \ \ 1/g fzd2_md7-8_c6_cc.pdb | sed s/PRO\ B\
\ \ 1/NPROB\ \ \ 1/g | sed s/PHE\ A\ \ 99/CPHEA\ \ 99/g | sed s/PHE\ B\
\ 99/CPHEB\ \ 99/g | sed s/O\ \ \ CPHE/OC1\ CPHE/g | sed s/OXT\
CPHE/OC2\ CPHE/g | sed s/HIS\ /HID\ /g | sed s/LYS\ /LYP\ /g | sed
s/CYS\ /CYN\ /g > protein2.pdb
Then fixed the nterminal residue name. Finally replaced all CYS to CYS2
I went back and did the same thing except for tleap. It pdb2gmx seems to
process these files without needing the tleap step.
Still I see some of the same lincs errors.
rms 10.669050, max 173.182678 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.669803, max 173.177811 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670179, max 173.175400 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670368, max 173.174149 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670460, max 173.173553 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670508, max 173.173141 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670531, max 173.173035 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670543, max 173.172958 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670549, max 173.172928 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670552, max 173.172913 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670554, max 173.172913 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
rms 10.670554, max 173.172913 (between atoms 1857 and 1859)
ATOM   1857  CA  HIE   120      43.362  28.084  25.727  1.00  0.00
ATOM   1858  HA  HIE   120      43.677  27.135  25.748  1.00  0.00
ATOM   1859  CB  HIE   120      42.112  28.226  24.788  1.00  0.00
also this atom consistently has a very high Fmax
Step=    3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  1.45860e+10 Fmax= 2.82224e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=    4, Dmax= 7.2e-03 nm, Epot=  1.45396e+10 Fmax= 2.82207e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=    5, Dmax= 3.6e-03 nm, Epot=  1.45106e+10 Fmax= 2.82194e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=    6, Dmax= 1.8e-03 nm, Epot=  1.44953e+10 Fmax= 2.82181e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=    7, Dmax= 9.0e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44887e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=    8, Dmax= 4.5e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44850e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=    9, Dmax= 2.2e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44832e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=   10, Dmax= 1.1e-04 nm, Epot=  1.44822e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=   11, Dmax= 5.6e-05 nm, Epot=  1.44818e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=   12, Dmax= 2.8e-05 nm, Epot=  1.44815e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
atom= 19392
Step=   13, Dmax= 1.4e-05 nm, Epot=  1.44814e+10 Fmax= 2.82196e+12,
atom= 19392
Its not clear to me what we should do to correct this structures...maybe
Andrey has some input.
http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/em_restrained_rcs_mdrun2.txt
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu
<mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    On 1/10/10 5:18 PM, Jack Shultz wrote:

        I am trying to get this workflow opperational. However, my
        systems are
        getting unstable. I have preped two mdp files: 1) one for
        restrained 2)
        unrestrained. LINCS errors appear for restrained and
        unrestrained has
        infinite energy appearing.
        http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/_em_restrained_rcs_mdrun.txt_

        <http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/em_restrained_rcs_mdrun.txt>
        __


    This log file shows several "long bond" warnings, which may be the
    root of your problem.  See here:

    
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#Long_bonds_and.2for_missing_atoms

    Since your minimization is failing immediately, there is something
    physically unreasonable about your structure, such that EM cannot
    resolve the problem. Note, too, that one of the long bond warnings
    pertained to atom 1668, which is the location of the first LINCS
    warning.  Coincidence?  Not likely.  Re-examine the starting
    structure and figure out if anything is missing or poorly
    reconstructed (e.g., from initially missing atoms).


        This is where I get the LINCS Warnings
        Step -1, time -0.001 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
        relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
        rms 0.461520, max 14.428611 (between atoms 1668 and 1669)
        bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
        atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
        Steepest Descents:
            Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+04
            Number of steps    =          100
        Warning: 1-4 interaction between 1658 and 1672 at distance 2.655
        which
        is larger than the 1-4 table size 2.400 nm
        These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
        This usually means your system is exploding,
        if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
        or with user tables increase the table size
        Step=    0, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.09364e+09 Fmax= 2.21154e+11,
        atom= 3292
        Step 1, time 0.001 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
        relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
        rms 0.680509, max 22.293625 (between atoms 1668 and 1670)
        bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
        atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
        What is a reasonable increase in table-extension. Is this a
        mis-leading
        suggestion?


    You should not adjust the table-extension.  The other part of the
    error message is what you need to pay attention to ("your system is
    exploding").

    -Justin

        Here is the log from the unrestrained minimization.
        http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/_em_rcs_mdrun.txt_

        <http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/em_rcs_mdrun.txt>
        Here is a zip archive containing the working directory for this
        minimization. Its about 428 kb
        
http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/rcs_ga_run_10_bt_Fzd2-MD7-MD8-7.zip_lig_24205_ChemDiv_5754-2873_ts_1263004110202172000.zip

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