On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Vitaly V. Chaban wrote:
>>
>> In this context, it is interesting how X2TOP decides that two atoms
>> are connected? Only on the base of N2T: if the atom should have 4
>> neighbours, it looks for the appropriate number of them?
>>
>
> That's correct.


Then the interesting error is:
"Fatal error:
No forcefield type for atom C (1) with 0 bonds"

while PDB contains other atoms than carbon. If it looks for neighbours
why does not it find them...




>> In my case, maybe it considers that 0.18 nm is too much for two atoms
>> to be connected?
>>
>
> The length defined in the .n2t file should be the actual bond length (from
> the coordinate file) +/- 10%, like specbond.dat, if I recall; x2top should
> not arbitrarily try to dictate that a bond is too long.
>
> -Justin
>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Vitaly V. Chaban <vvcha...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: x2top and bonds. No forcefield type for
>> atom S (2) with 3 bonds
>> To: jalem...@vt.edu, gmx-users@gromacs.org
>>
>>
>> Yes. This worked even with my N2T. I will probably recreate my PDB...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Vitaly V. Chaban wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Justin,
>>>>
>>>> Am I correct that X2TOP uses only N2T file to make a topology?
>>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> I made the full line for Sulphur but it didn't change the situation.
>>>> It looks strange that X2TOP notices 3 bonds although I propose to have
>>>> 4 bonds (and they are present). If I propose 3 bonds, it readily gives
>>>> an output... This is like it has predefined Sulphur with 3 bonds.
>>>>
>>> Certainly not.  Take, for example, a simple SO4 molecule:
>>>
>>> REMARK
>>> HETATM    1  OAC DRG     1       5.850  14.800 -12.770  1.00 20.00
>>>  O
>>> HETATM    2  SAE DRG     1       4.810  15.780 -12.710  1.00 20.00
>>>  S
>>> HETATM    3  OAD DRG     1       3.550  15.150 -12.980  1.00 20.00
>>>  O
>>> HETATM    4  OAB DRG     1       4.770  16.390 -11.340  1.00 20.00
>>>  O
>>> HETATM    5  OAA DRG     1       5.070  16.850 -13.730  1.00 20.00
>>>  O
>>>
>>> The topology is generated just fine with this .n2t file:
>>>
>>> S   S   0   32.06   4   O  0.145    O   0.145   O   0.145   O   0.145
>>> O   OM  0   15.9994 1   S  0.145
>>>
>>> I don't know what might be going on with your system, but I would suggest
>>> creating an .n2t file with only entries pertinent to your system, for all
>>> atoms involved.  This is, of course, only really useful for debugging,
>>> since
>>> in theory, x2top should be easily extensible by appending the .n2t file.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>> Vitaly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Vitaly V. Chaban <vvcha...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This can be the reason when X2TOP gives the following error:
>>>>> "
>>>>> Fatal error:
>>>>> No forcefield type for atom S (2) with 3 bonds
>>>>> "
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I try to translate PDB of the TFSA anion
>>>>>     O    O
>>>>>     ||     ||
>>>>> F3C-S-N-S-CF3
>>>>>     ||     ||
>>>>>     O    O
>>>>>
>>>>> into topology.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My PDB contains optimized geometry:
>>>>> HEADER    TFSA
>>>>> COMPND    TFSA
>>>>> AUTHOR    VVC
>>>>> ATOM      1  N   TFS     1      -0.000   0.444  -0.008  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      2  S   TFS     1       1.401  -0.440  -0.189  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      3  S   TFS     1      -1.400  -0.438   0.189  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      4  O   TFS     1      -1.236  -1.810  -0.833  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      5  O   TFS     1      -1.284  -1.009   1.805  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      6  O   TFS     1       1.293  -1.026  -1.800  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      7  O   TFS     1       1.233  -1.803   0.845  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      8  C   TFS     1      -2.837   0.628  -0.107  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM      9  C   TFS     1       2.836   0.630   0.105  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM     10  F   TFS     1      -3.996  -0.097   0.093  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM     11  F   TFS     1      -2.805   1.094  -1.408  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM     12  F   TFS     1      -2.807   1.698   0.766  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM     13  F   TFS     1       2.802   1.099   1.404  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM     14  F   TFS     1       2.803   1.698  -0.771  1.00  0.00
>>>>> ATOM     15  F   TFS     1       3.996  -0.093  -0.093  1.00  0.00
>>>>> END
>>>>>
>>>>> and my n2t file is
>>>>>
>>>>> C   C   1   C               ; CNT Carbon with one bond
>>>>> C   C   2   C   C           : CNT double bonded Carbon
>>>>> O   O   1   C               ; CARBONYL OXYGEN (C=O)
>>>>> O   OM  1   C               ; CARBOXYL OXYGEN (CO-)
>>>>> O   OA  2   C   H           ; HYDROXYL OXYGEN (OH)
>>>>> O   OW  2   H   H           ; WATER OXYGEN
>>>>> N   N   3   H   C   C       ; PEPTIDE NITROGEN (N OR NH)
>>>>> N   NT  3   H   H   C       ; TERMINAL NITROGEN (NH2)
>>>>> N   NL  4   C   H   H   H   ; TERMINAL NITROGEN (NH3)
>>>>> N   NR5 2   C   C           ; AROMATIC N (5-RING,2 BONDS)
>>>>> N   NR5*    3   C   C   H       ; AROMATIC N (5-RING,3 BONDS)
>>>>> N   NP  3   C   C   FE      ; PORPHYRIN NITROGEN
>>>>> C   C       3   C   O   *       ; BARE CARBON (PEPTIDE,C=O,C-N)
>>>>> ; Note that order is importante here because of wildcards.
>>>>> C   C3  4   H   H   H   *   ; ALIPHATIC CH3 GROUP
>>>>> C   C2  4   H   H   C   *   ; ALIPHATIC CH2 GROUP
>>>>> C   C1      4   H   C   *   *   ; ALIPHATIC CH GROUP
>>>>> C   CB      3   C   C   C       ; BARE CARBON (5-,6-RING)
>>>>> H   H       1   N               ; HYDROGEN BONDED TO NITROGEN
>>>>> H   HO      1   O               ; HYDROXYL HYDROGEN
>>>>> H   HW      1   OW              ; WATER HYDROGEN
>>>>> H   HS      1   S               ; HYDROGEN BONDED TO SULFUR
>>>>> H   HC      1   C               ; HYDROGEN BONDED TO CARBON
>>>>> S   S       4   C  0.181  N  0.167 O 0.172  O  0.172
>>>>> F   F       1   C
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Sulphur atoms have each 4 bonds but X2TOP wants them to have only
>>>>> 3. If I change the string in the N2T to 3 bonds, the topology is
>>>>> generated but S-C bond is absent.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can be the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Vitaly V. Chaban, Ph.D.
>>>>> http://www-rmn.univer.kharkov.ua/chaban.html
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> ========================================
>
> Justin A. Lemkul
> Ph.D. Candidate
> ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
> MILES-IGERT Trainee
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
> jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
> http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
>
> ========================================
>



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