Greetings!  

Thank you both for such timely and helpful responses.  Below I have listed how 
I (and anyone interested in using their own force field) should modify the 
gbsa.itp file, according to my new understanding.  Please let me know if I am 
wrong.

Columns 1-3:  Leave them alone, they are not used in 4.5beta3
Column 4:     Use the force field's LJ sigma/2 (except for hydrogen: use 0.115 
regardless of the hydrogen's sigma value)
Column 5:     Leave it as is, because the HCT scaling factors are not force 
field specific

Prof. van der Spoel, unfortunately our force field does not support nucleic 
acids either.  Per, I will let you know if I find any errors, however I am new 
to implicit solvent methods, so I have a lot of learning to do first!  

Best, 

E. A. Ploetz

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      field [Mark,      Justin] (Eudes Fileti)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:41:51 +0200
From: Per Larsson <per.lars...@sbc.su.se>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] GB Parameters
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Also, again, as David said, if you find any errors in the parameters or in the 
code, please let me know!

Cheers
/Per


23 aug 2010 kl. 20:09 skrev Per Larsson <per.lars...@sbc.su.se>:

> Hi!
> 
> Values in columns 1-3 are not currently used in version beta3. They pertain 
> to more elaborate surface area algorithms, the one from Still et al in 
> particular.
> 
> Column 4 is the Vdw-radii for atom types that are used for computing the Born 
> radii. The dielectric offset is specified in the mdp-file, and gets added to 
> the input radii for the different radii methods.
> 
> Column 5 is the scale factor for the HCT/OBC models. The values are taken 
> from the original HCT reference, as well as the corresponding implementation 
> in Tinker. 
> 
> /Per
> 
> 23 aug 2010 kl. 19:27 skrev Elizabeth Ploetz <plo...@ksu.edu>:
> 
>> Dear Gromacs Users, 
>> 
>> I am interested in implementing implicit solvent using the OBC GBSA method.  
>> In the Gromacs 4.5beta3 top directory, several force fields (oplsaa and 
>> multiple versions of amber) contain the gbsa.itp file, and one (charmm27), 
>> contains a gb.itp file.  They all have the same column titles (sar, st, pi, 
>> gbr, and hct).  I have read the six articles listed at 
>> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Implicit_Solvent, however I 
>> still have the following two questions regarding the contents of this file:
>> 
>> (1.)  What values are tabulated in these columns and what are the 
>> corresponding references for each of them?
>> (2.)  Which columns are used (versus ignored) by Gromacs in the 
>> implementation of each of the methods (Still/HCT/OBC)?
>> 
>> Here are my guesses for Question 1:
>> (a.)  sar: solvent accessible surface area?
>> (b.)  st: surface tension?
>> (c.)  pi: ?
>> (d.)  gbr: generalized born radius?  These values correspond to sigma/2 from 
>> Jorgensen and Tirado-Rives' 1988 JACS paper (v. 110, p. 1657).  However the 
>> generalized born radius is equal to Rvdw plus a dielectric offset distance, 
>> according to Still et al's 1997 J. Phys. Chem. A paper (v. 101, p. 3005).  
>> This would mean the dielectric offset distance is set to zero (?).  
>> (e.)  hct: HCT parameter
>> 
>> With an eventual goal of implementing implicit solvent using my lab's force 
>> field, insight into the meaning of the columns and/or references for their 
>> origin would be greatly appreciated. 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance! 
>> 
>> Sincerely yours,
>> 
>> E. A. Ploetz
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:01:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Bruce D. Ray" <bruced...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Charmm to Gromacs: Polyols force field
        [Justin]
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On Mon, August 23, 2010 12:12 PM, Eudes Fileti <fil...@ufabc.edu.br> wrote:

> Well, the line 40 is just one of the 36 parameters not found!
> In this link ( https://sites.google.com/site/fileti/ ) I put
> the complete files. 
> I know I need to determine which bond type should be called
> and I believe that it has been done, but I don't know why
> it's not being found.

Well, I'm not Justin, but as I look at your topology, I see
that you have a bond from atom 3, type CC322, to atom 6,
also type CC322.  However, when I look at the parameters you
give in the bondtypes section, I cannot find a CC322  CC322
bond defined.  Either the entry is missing or you did not
post a complete set of force field entries.

Missing entries might be the cause of theother parameters
not found as well, which is what was suggested to you
previously.


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Associate Scientist
IUPUI
Physics Dept.
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:46:20 -0300
From: Eudes Fileti <fil...@ufabc.edu.br>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] Charmm to Gromacs: Polyols force
        field [Mark,    Justin]
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Ol�,
Mark and Justin.
Solved.
I did what you suggested and I got all the default values.

Muito obrigado!
eef

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:09:55 +1000
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From: fang yuan <fangyuan3...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:52
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Does anyone know how to get the file 
charmm_gromacs.tar.gz?
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> Hi, I have the same problem, I need to implement the general CHARMM 
> forcefield in gromacs, so I need to know how to convert the rtf files into 
> rtp files in gromacs

There's never been an automated tool for that.

Mark

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:49:38 +0100
From: Alan <alanwil...@gmail.com>
Subject: [gmx-users] gmx 4.5 and openmm on Mac, still not compiling
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Hi there,

I've tried before and the error still basically the same (line error in
'nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c' was 630, now's 629) .

I am using gmx 4.5 release-4-5-patches branch.

git pull
rm -fr build
mkdir -p build
cd build
cmake -D BUILD_SHARED_LIBS=ON -DGMX_OPENMM=OFF ..
make clean
make -j 2
sudo make install # all fine till here
make clean
export OPENMM_ROOT_DIR=/usr/local/openmm
cmake -D BUILD_SHARED_LIBS=OFF -DGMX_OPENMM=ON ..
make mdrun

[snip]
[ 56%] Building C object src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/version.c.o
[ 56%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_x86_64_sse/nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c.o
/Users/alan/Programmes/gromacs/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_x86_64_sse/nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c:
In function ���nb_kernel400nf_x86_64_sse���:
/Users/alan/Programmes/gromacs/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_x86_64_sse/nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c:629:
error: ���gmx_invsqrt_exptab��� undeclared (first use in this function)
/Users/alan/Programmes/gromacs/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_x86_64_sse/nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c:629:
error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
/Users/alan/Programmes/gromacs/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_x86_64_sse/nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c:629:
error: for each function it appears in.)
/Users/alan/Programmes/gromacs/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_x86_64_sse/nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c:629:
error: ���gmx_invsqrt_fracttab��� undeclared (first use in this function)
make[3]: ***
[src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_x86_64_sse/nb_kernel400_x86_64_sse.c.o]
Error 1
make[2]: *** [src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/all] Error 2
make[1]: *** [src/kernel/CMakeFiles/mdrun.dir/rule] Error 2
make: *** [mdrun] Error 2

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Alan
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