Anirban Ghosh wrote:
Thanks a lot Justin for the reply !!!

While calculating the Elj and Eqq values should we consider the short-ranged LJ (LJ-SR) or LJ-14, the two components that are present in

1-4 interactions are intramolecular, thus should not be relevant to the LIE calculation.

the .edr file? And for Coulomb also?
Which one should we consider?

Did you use PME?  If so, you can't break down the Coulombic terms entirely.

-Justin


Thanks again.

Anirban


On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Anirban Ghosh wrote:

        Thanks a lot Justin for the reply.
        Yes I am going through all the relevant literature on LIE.
        Actually the lie.xvg file contains the same value of -25.4 for
        all the frames. So I am getting a straight line plot. Why is
        this happening? Am I missing out something?


    If the interactions of your ligand and its receptor are stable, then
    there may be no change in the energetics.  I don't know anything
    about your system, so I can't say anything beyond that.

    -Justin

        Thanks a lot again.

        Anirban


        On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           Anirban Ghosh wrote:

               Thanks a lot Justin for the reply.
               So I ran a simulation with my ligand in water for 1 ns
        and using
               g_energy I calculated the LG-14 and Coulomb-14 values
        from the
               .edr file. I supplied the average of these two values as
        my Elj
               and Eqq to g_lie and I got the DGbind as -25.4. Is this the
               correct way to do this?


           Again I would ask you to not rely entirely upon my advice for
        this.
            I have only examined the LIE method sparingly.  My best
        answer is,
           "probably," but do read the literature on the method to be sure.


               And why am I getting only a single value of DGbind for
        all the
               frames captured in the .edr file?


           The lie.xvg file contains the LIE values as a function of time.
            What's printed to the screen is the average value and standard
           deviation.

           -Justin

               Thanks a lot.

               Anirban


               On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
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        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>>> wrote:



                  Anirban Ghosh wrote:

                      Thanks Justin for the reply.
                      I have through the threads about g_lie, but cannot
        understand
                      how to get the values for Elj and Eqq for a particular
               ligand.
                      Like in my case for a system consisting of a beta2AR
               protein +
                      dopamine (ligand) + POPC + water, what should be the
               values for
                      Elj and Eqq?


                  To obtain these (from my limited understanding), you would
               have to
                  run a simulation of your ligand in water, decomposing the
               nonbonded
                  energies between the ligand and solvent into LJ and
        Coulombic
                  components.  Those are your values.

                  I should also note that simply going through the
        archive to
               inform
                  yourself about the LIE method is insufficient.  The
        original
                  literature, and several subsequent papers (one at least
               within the
                  last year, IIRC), describes the accuracy of the method and
               what it
                  needs to be properly run.

                  -Justin

                      Thanks a lot.

                      Anirban
                      On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
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               <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>>
                      <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>
               <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>>>> wrote:



                         Anirban Ghosh wrote:

                             Hi ALL,

                             I have run a protein + ligand (dopamine)
               simulation. Now
                      I want
                             to calculate the free energy of binding using
               g_lie. But
                      g_lie
                             asks for two values: Elj and Eqq. How or from
               where can I get
                             these values for my ligand? Also, do I need
        to run a
                      simulation
                             with only the ligand? And, is there any
        other way
               (like
                      MMGBSA
                             in Amber) to calculate the free energy for my
               simulation? Any
                             suggestion is welcome.
                             Thanks a lot in advance.


                         Go to the literature and understand what
        information is
                      needed for
                         such a simulation, and then look into the list
               archives and
                      you'll
                         find dozens of threads about using g_lie.

                         -Justin


                             Regards,

                             Anirban


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