On 5/01/2011 5:37 PM, gromacs wrote:

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Sorry, i write wrong.
Someone said that we cannot get sufactant.gro and sufactant.top through 
pdb2gmx()  sufactant.pdb. Because grompp  .pdb could mainly use for 
macro-biology big moleculars, which means some proteins etc.

Correct. pdb2gmx builds topologies only for some biopolymers for which it has monomers in its database.

So that means we could not get correct .gro, .top small molecules such as inorganic or small organic molecules (such as ethanol) by using pdb2max command. Maybe we could get get sufactant.gro, sufactant.top through the following? SwissParam <http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/SwissParam> (for CHARMM forcefield), PRODRG <http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/PRODRG> (for ffgmx/GROMOS96 43A1), Automated Topology Builder <http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/Automated_Topology_Builder> (for GROMOS96 53A6), MKTOP <http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/MKTOP> (for OPLS/AA)
?
But how can we get surfactant such as SDS .gro?

Some of those sources will build a coordinate file as well. Other sources might be found here http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/Coordinate_File

Mark



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>Ramachandran G wrote:
>>  Hi Gromacs users,
>>      I used g_mindist to calculate the minimum distance between a residue
>>  and a group of water molecules.
>>  Since distance is a length between two points in space, for the program
>>  considers the bunch of water molecules(15 number)
>>  what specific point does the group consider ? Thank you.
>>
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>The distance measured is that between the two closest atoms, whichever those 
may
>be.  Read the first few sentences of g_mindist -h.
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>>  Yours sincerely,
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>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 11:59:53 +0530
>From: sreelakshmi ramesh<sree.laks...@research.iiit.ac.in>
>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] The sum of the O-H distancesof the backbone
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>Thanks a lot for your reply..
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>On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Mark Abraham<mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>wrote:
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>>  On 2/01/2011 2:18 PM, sreelakshmi ramesh wrote:
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>>>  Dear all,
>>>              I have a protein in water and i have simulated it for few
>>>  nanoseconds and i now i wanted to monitor the  The sum of the O-H distances
>>>  (in Å) of the backbone
>>>  hydrogen bonds ROH:i dono how to extract the value from the trajectory
>>>  file.Any siuggestion please.Thanks in advance
>>>
>>
>>  Look in section 7.4 of the manual for a suitable tool for extracting the
>>  raw distances. You'll need some other non-GROMACS tool to add them up.
>>
>>  Mark
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>Subject: [gmx-users] How to get sufactant.gro, sufactant.top,
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>Hi expert,
>
>I'd like to add sufactant to water. That means i should first get the 
sufactant.gro, and sufactant.top.
>
>Someone said that we cannot get sufactant.gro and sufactant.top through grompp 
()  sufactant.pdb. Because grompp  .pdb could mainly use for macro-biology big 
moleculars, which means some proteins etc.
>So that means we could not get correct  .gro, .top small molecules such as 
inorganic or small organic molecules (such asethanol).
>
>So how can we get the sufactant.gro, sufactant.top? and which force field 
should we choose for ordinary simulation? I know we often use ffoplass force field 
for solution.
>
>Tiefeng
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>From: Mark Abraham<mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] How to get sufactant.gro, sufactant.top,
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>On 01/04/11, gromacs<ptf1...@163.com>  wrote:
>>  Hi expert,
>>
>>
>>
>>  I'd like to add sufactant to water. That means i should first get the 
sufactant.gro, and sufactant.top.
>>
>>
>
>No, you need a coordinate file for the starting point for your GROMACS work, 
and the pieces to combine into a .top. That might mean a coordinate file of all 
your surfactant molecules and matching .top file that you then solvate with 
genbox. Or you might want to use genconf to replicate some existing coordinate 
file somehow. Or you might have your starting point already and need to match a 
.top to it.
>
>
>>
>>  Someone said that we cannot get sufactant.gro and sufactant.top through 
grompp ()  sufactant.pdb. Because grompp  .pdb could mainly use for macro-biology big 
moleculars, which means some proteins etc.
>>
>>
>
>Well they (or your account of them) is wrong on what might be several points. 
Someone needs to understand GROMACS workflows better - perhaps by doing some 
tutorial material and/or reading 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Steps_to_Perform_a_Simulation
>
>
>>
>>
>>  So that means we could not get correct  .gro, .top small molecules such as 
inorganic or small organic molecules (such as ethanol).
>>
>>
>>
>>  So how can we get the sufactant.gro, sufactant.top?
>>
>>
>
>That varies widely with what raw materials exist and what the objective is.
>
>
>>   and which force field should we choose for ordinary simulation? I know we 
often use ffoplass force field for solution.
>>
>>
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>That's your homework, I'm afraid. See above link.
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>Mark
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