On 16/02/2011 10:30 PM, ifat shub wrote:

Hi Tsjerk,
Thank you for your reply.
I am aware of the trajconv option but I wanted to know if there is a way to avoid these kind of jumps over the periodic boundaries during the mdrun and not post process?

No. mdrun does not know in advance what your visualization requirements are, and frankly there are better things to do with expensive compute cluster time. Post-processing a small number of frames elsewhere is much better use of resources.

Mark


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    Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:19:14 +0200
    From: ifat shub <shubi...@gmail.com <mailto:shubi...@gmail.com>>
    Subject: [gmx-users] Periodic Boundary Conditions g_mindist -pi
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    Hi,



    I am running a simulation on the complex 1aik.pdb in 310K. I
    wanted to see
    if the complex is seeing its next periodic image, so I used the
    g_mindist
    command with the -pi option. My command line was:

    g_mindist -f run.xtc -s run.gro -n index.ndx -od tmp.xvg -pi

    The output (see below) was stable until ~344ps when there is a
     jump in the
    max internal distance (third column) from ~6nm to ~22nm. After the
    jump the
    numbers are reduced back to ~6nm and remained stable until the run is
    completed at 1ns.

    Does anyone know how to explain this jump? Is this a real problem
    or just a
    visualization artifact? Is there a way to avoid such jumps?



    Here is the mdp file I used:

    ------run.mdp------

    integrator      = md

    nsteps          = 1000000

    dt              = 0.001

    coulombtype     = pme

    vdw-type        = cut-off

    tcoupl          = Berendsen

    tc-grps         = protein non-protein

    tau-t           = 0.1 0.1

    ref-t           = 310 310

    nstxout         = 100

    nstvout         = 0

    nstxtcout       = 100

    nstenergy           = 100

    comm_mode     = Linear ; Angular

    comm_grps        = Protein

    xtc_grps               = Protein

    energygrps         = Protein

    ------------------



    Thanks,

    Ifat



    The output:

    343.7   10.813 5.924   16.445 16.445 16.445

    343.8   10.809 5.949   16.445 16.445 16.445

    343.9   10.804 5.959   16.445 16.445 16.445

    344      10.808 5.974   16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.1   0.18     21.982 16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.2   10.778 5.977   16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.3   10.768 5.996   16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.4   10.764 6.016   16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.5   10.722 6.029   16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.6   10.774 6.01     16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.7   0.174   21.984 16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.8   0.176   21.98   16.445 16.445 16.445

    344.9   0.17     22.002 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345      0.173   21.981 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.1   0.191   21.954 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.2   0.183   21.958 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.3   0.181   22.012 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.4   0.17     22.054 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.5   0.168   22.054 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.6   0.189   22.039 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.7   0.171   22.007 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.8   0.186   22.031 16.445 16.445 16.445

    345.9   0.171   22.077 16.445 16.445 16.445

    346      0.187   21.99   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.1   0.173   21.984 16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.2   0.181   22.02   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.3   10.82   5.984   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.4   10.81   6.002   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.5   10.819 6.008   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.6   10.813 5.996   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.7   10.781 6.006   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.8   10.793 6.026   16.445 16.445 16.445

    346.9   10.745 5.985   16.445 16.445 16.445

    347      10.762 5.999   16.445 16.445 16.445

    347.1   10.781 5.984   16.445 16.445 16.445

    347.2   10.784 6.002   16.445 16.445 16.445
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    Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:43:56 +0100
    From: Tsjerk Wassenaar <tsje...@gmail.com <mailto:tsje...@gmail.com>>
    Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Periodic Boundary Conditions g_mindist -pi
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    Hi Ifat,

    I guess this is a jump over the periodic boundaries. You should remove
    jumps from the trajectory (-pbc nojump) before running g_mindist -pi.

    Cheers,

    Tsjerk

    On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, ifat shub <shubi...@gmail.com
    <mailto:shubi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    >
    >
    > I am running a simulation on the complex 1aik.pdb in 310K. I
    wanted to see
    > if the complex is seeing its next periodic image, so I used the
    g_mindist
    > command with the -pi option. My command line was:
    >
    > g_mindist -f run.xtc -s run.gro -n index.ndx -od tmp.xvg -pi
    >
    > The output (see below) was stable until ~344ps when there is a
     jump in the
    > max internal distance (third column) from ~6nm to ~22nm. After
    the jump the
    > numbers are reduced back to ~6nm and remained stable until the
    run is
    > completed at 1ns.
    >
    > Does anyone know how to explain this jump? Is this a real
    problem or just a
    > visualization artifact? Is there a way to avoid such jumps?
    >
    >
    >
    > Here is the mdp file I used:
    >
    > ------run.mdp------
    >
    > integrator      = md
    >
    > nsteps          = 1000000
    >
    > dt              = 0.001
    >
    > coulombtype     = pme
    >
    > vdw-type        = cut-off
    >
    > tcoupl          = Berendsen
    >
    > tc-grps         = protein non-protein
    >
    > tau-t           = 0.1 0.1
    >
    > ref-t           = 310 310
    >
    > nstxout         = 100
    >
    > nstvout         = 0
    >
    > nstxtcout       = 100
    >
    > nstenergy           = 100
    >
    > comm_mode     = Linear ; Angular
    >
    > comm_grps        = Protein
    >
    > xtc_grps               = Protein
    >
    > energygrps         = Protein
    >
    > ------------------
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Ifat
    >
    >
    >
    > The output:
    >
    > 343.7   10.813 5.924   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 343.8   10.809 5.949   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 343.9   10.804 5.959   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344      10.808 5.974   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.1   0.18     21.982 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.2   10.778 5.977   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.3   10.768 5.996   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.4   10.764 6.016   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.5   10.722 6.029   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.6   10.774 6.01     16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.7   0.174   21.984 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.8   0.176   21.98   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 344.9   0.17     22.002 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345      0.173   21.981 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.1   0.191   21.954 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.2   0.183   21.958 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.3   0.181   22.012 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.4   0.17     22.054 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.5   0.168   22.054 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.6   0.189   22.039 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.7   0.171   22.007 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.8   0.186   22.031 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 345.9   0.171   22.077 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346      0.187   21.99   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.1   0.173   21.984 16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.2   0.181   22.02   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.3   10.82   5.984   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.4   10.81   6.002   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.5   10.819 6.008   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.6   10.813 5.996   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.7   10.781 6.006   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.8   10.793 6.026   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 346.9   10.745 5.985   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 347      10.762 5.999   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 347.1   10.781 5.984   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    > 347.2   10.784 6.002   16.445 16.445 16.445
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    --
    Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.

    post-doctoral researcher
    Molecular Dynamics Group
    * Groningen Institute for Biomolecular Research and Biotechnology
    * Zernike Institute for Advanced Materials
    University of Groningen
    The Netherlands


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