Hi! The answer is that I do not now critical it is. I have seen some papers that seem to hint at it not being overly critical, but, again, life does not come at a net charge. You'd have to see for yourself in your system, given the observables that are important I suppose. Possibly we can implement this in the future, as there indeed seems to be some interest in it, but that is not a task I can deal with currently.
/Per 10 mar 2011 kl. 10.52 skrev Yulian Gavrilov: > Thanks again! > Don't you know how to make a total charge = 0 in this case, if implicit salt > concentration is not implemented currently? Or it is not critically? > > 2011/3/10 Per Larsson <per.lars...@sbc.su.se> > Hi! > > Yes, except that in point 2, I'm not sure about the effects of explicit ions > in an implicit solvent. > Do deal with that properly one should use an implicit salt concentration, but > that is not implemented currently. > The choice of water-model with pdb2gmx is not important. You can choose > 'None' here. > > Cheers > /Per > > 10 mar 2011 kl. 10.39 skrev Yulian Gavrilov: > >> Thanks! >> If I understand you correctly, I need to do this (?): >> pdb2gmx >> Adding ions (if I have no SOL, what is better to choose on this step?) >> Minimization with mdp file, that includes these lines: >> implicit_solvent = GBSA >> gb_algorithm = {Still,HCT,OBC} >> sa_algorithm=Ace-approximation >> Equilibration (nvt, npt) and MD also with these lines in mdp files. >> >> >> 2011/3/10 Per Larsson <per.lars...@sbc.su.se> >> Hi! >> >> Starting an implicit solvent simulation works just as starting a "normal", >> explicit solvent simulation, except there is no solvent molecules. >> You should use version 4.5.3 for this though (4.0.5 will not work). >> >> Then you specify in the mdp-file implicit_solvent = GBSA and use pdb2gmx, >> grompp, mdrun etc... as you otherwise would do. >> The choice of the Born radii model is set by gb_algorithm = {Still,HCT,OBC} >> and the non-polar solvation is calculated using >> sa_algorithm=Ace-approximation. >> >> Cheers >> /Per >> >> 10 mar 2011 kl. 10.10 skrev Yulian Gavrilov: >> >>> Dear, all >>> I just begin to work in gromacs. >>> I would like to run on a protein with amber99. >>> Is there someone here that successfully did a protein simulation in >>> GROMACS with implicit solvent and willing to explain the procedure and >>> share the parameters used (especially force field). >>> >>> In mdout.mdp (gromacs 4.0.5) I found this lines. Can I add them to md.mdp? >>> How to change this parameters correctly? >>> What changes should be done on the previous steps? I mean, how to start a >>> simulation with implicit solvent model from the very beginning? >>> Sorry for primitive question, but I did not found any useful information >>> about it for the begginers. >>> >>> ; IMPLICIT SOLVENT ALGORITHM >>> implicit_solvent = No >>> >>> ; GENERALIZED BORN ELECTROSTATICS >>> ; Algorithm for calculating Born radii >>> gb_algorithm = Still >>> ; Frequency of calculating the Born radii inside rlist >>> nstgbradii = 1 >>> ; Cutoff for Born radii calculation; the contribution from atoms >>> ; between rlist and rgbradii is updated every nstlist steps >>> rgbradii = 2 >>> ; Dielectric coefficient of the implicit solvent >>> gb_epsilon_solvent = 80 >>> ; Salt concentration in M for Generalized Born models >>> gb_saltconc = 0 >>> ; Scaling factors used in the OBC GB model. Default values are OBC(II) >>> gb_obc_alpha = 1 >>> gb_obc_beta = 0.8 >>> gb_obc_gamma = 4.85 >>> ; Surface tension (kJ/mol/nm^2) for the SA (nonpolar surface) part of GBSA >>> ; The default value (2.092) corresponds to 0.005 kcal/mol/Angstrom^2. >>> sa_surface_tension = 2.092 >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Yulian Gavrilov >>> >>> -- >>> gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org >>> http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users >>> Please search the archive at >>> http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! >>> Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the >>> www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. >>> Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists >> >> >> -- >> gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org >> http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users >> Please search the archive at >> http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting! >> Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the >> www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. >> Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists >> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Yulian Gavrilov >> > > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Yulian Gavrilov >
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