Steve Vivian wrote:
On 03/08/2011 10:23 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


Steve Vivian wrote:

New to Gromacs.

Worked my way through the tutorial with relatively few issues until the Equilibration stage. My system blows up!!

Returned to the Topology stage and rebuilt my system ensuring that I followed the procedure correctly for the InflateGro process. It appears to be correct, reasonable lipid area, no water inside my bilayer, vmd shows a structure which appears normal (although I am new to this). There are voids between bilayer and water molecules, but this is to be expected, correct?

Energy Minimization repeatedly produces results within the expected range.

Again system blows up at equilibration, step 0 segmentation fault. Regardless of whether I attempt the NVT or Anneal_Npt process (using the provided mdp files, including the updates for restraints on the protein and the lipid molecules).

I have attempted many variations of the nvt.mdp and anneal_npt.mdp files hoping to resolve my issue, but with no success. I will post the log information from the nvt.mdp file included in the tutorial.

Started mdrun on node 0 Tue Mar  8 15:42:35 2011

           Step           Time         Lambda
              0        0.00000        0.00000

Grid: 9 x 9 x 9 cells
   Energies (kJ/mol)
G96Angle Proper Dih. Improper Dih. LJ-14 Coulomb-14 8.52380e+01 6.88116e+01 2.23939e+01 -3.03546e+01 2.71260e+03 LJ (SR) Disper. corr. Coulomb (SR) Coul. recip. Position Rest. 1.49883e+04 -1.42684e+03 -2.78329e+05 -1.58540e+05 2.57100e+00 Potential Kinetic En. Total Energy Conserved En. Temperature -4.20446e+05 *1.41436e+14 1.41436e+14 1.41436e+14 1.23343e+12*
 Pres. DC (bar)         Pressure (bar)       Constr. rmsd
   -1.56331e+02        5.05645e+12        1.18070e+01


As you can see the Potential Energy is reasonable, but the Kinetic Energy and Temperature seem unrealistic.

I am hoping that this is enough information for a more experienced Gromacs user to provide guidance. Note: that I have tried all of the suggestions that I read on the mailing list and in the "blowing up" section of the manual, specifically:
-reduced time steps in Equilibration Stages
-reduced Fmax during EM stage (down as low as 100kJ which did not help)
-modified neighbours list parameters

Any help is appreciated. I can attach and forward any further information as required, please let me know.


Which Gromacs version are you using? It looks like you're running in serial, is that correct? Otherwise, please provide your mdrun command line. If you're using version 4.5.3 in serial, I have identified a very problematic bug that seems to affect a wide variety of systems that could be related:

Yes I am currently using Gromacs 4.5.3 in serial.

http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/715

I have seen even the most robust tutorial systems fail as well, as some new lab members experienced the same problem. The workaround is to run in parallel.

If I understand you correctly, the recommended workaround is to re-configure gromacs 4.5.3 with mpi enabled and complete the Equilibration and Production simulation in parallel.


Strictly speaking, an external MPI library is no longer required. Gromacs now builds with internal threading support (as long as your hardware and compilers support such features). In fact, thread support builds by default if possible, so if your mdrun has an -nt flag, you don't need to do anything else except use "mdrun -nt (number of threads)" when running your command.

Do you have a recommendation for which mpi library to install (lam mpi seems to be referenced in other articles on the mailing list)?


I've had good luck with OpenMPI in the past, but this is not strictly necessary in all cases.

Are there documented installation procedures for this process (upgrading to gromacs with mpi enabled)?


http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Installation_Instructions#Using_MPI

-Justin

Thanks for your assistance.
Steve.

-Justin


Regards,
Steve Vivian.
sviv...@uwo.ca






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Justin A. Lemkul
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ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

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