sa wrote:
Hi all

This message is related with my previous message (see below) about the calculation of the order value for the DPC alkyl chain in a micelle. So if I understand well the previous angel's message, I need to compute the theta angle between the 2 vectors defined by the (i-1,i+1) and (i, i+2). So for carbon atom C14, I have created an index file with two groups defined as following

aC14 | aC16  and aC14 | aC16 with make_ndx_mpi

and used the command g_sgangle_mpi -s run_1.tpr -f *.xtc -b 100000 -e 101000 -n index.ndx and choose the C13_C15 and C14_C16 groups. Unfortunately i obtain the following error

Group C13_C15 contains the following atoms:
Atomname 0: C13
Atomname 1: C15
Atomname 2: C13
Atomname 3: C15
Atomname 4: C13
Atomname 5: C15
Atomname 6: C13
Atomname 7: C15
Atomname 8: C13
Atomname 9: C1
...

Group C14_C16 contains the following atoms:
Atomname 0: C14
Atomname 1: C16
Atomname 2: C14
Atomname 3: C16
Atomname 4: C14

...
Atomname 105: C16
Atomname 106: C14
Atomname 107: C16

Careful: distance only makes sense in some situations.

Reading frame       0 time 100000.000
Back Off! I just backed up sg_angle.xvg to ./#sg_angle.xvg.2#

-------------------------------------------------------
Program g_sgangle_mpi, VERSION 4.5.3
Source code file: gmx_sgangle.c, line: 127

Fatal error:
Something wrong with contents of index file.

For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
-------------------------------------------------------

Did I make a error, what is the correct approach. to obtain the angle between 2 vectors ?


Per the description in g_sgangle -h, groups can only be two or three atoms in size. It seems as if this tool would be very inefficient for any more than a few calculations.

-Justin

Thank you in advance

SA



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    Message: 3
    Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:06:44 +0100
    From: ?ngel Pi?eiro <angel.pine...@usc.es <mailto:angel.pine...@usc.es>>
    Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 106
    To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org
    <mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org>>
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    Then, please, let us know how it works for your systems. The results for
    my systems were exactly as expected. This allows to evaluate the order
    of the C-chains regardless their orientation... but I do not know if
    there is a better method to do this. I would be happy to know the
    opinion of anyone else who want to try this or to propose an alternative
    method.

    Cheers,

    Ã ngel.



    On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 09:42 +0100, sa wrote:

     > Thank you Angel, I will try your suggestion.
     >
     > Cheers
     >
     > SA
     >
     >
     >
     >
     >         Hi
     >         very recently I faced the same problem with a system that
     >         gives micelles
     >         of different geometries and, as far as I saw, g_order
    don't do
     >         that.
     >         Then I decided to compute a kind of local order parameters
     >         defined as:
     >
     >         S_i=(3 cos(\theta)-1)/2
     >
     >         where theta is the angle between the segments joining the
     >         carbon atoms
     >         (i-1,i+1) and (i, i+2) in a linear C-chain. Perhaps you find
     >         this
     >         reasonable for your analysis...
     >
     >         Cheers,
     >
     >         Ã ngel.
     >
     >



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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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