Peter C. Lai wrote:
Hi
I haven't played with gromacs in years, so I'm pretty new at the ability
to play with large systems like lipid bilayers.

What is the "correct" or lets say canonical method to equilibrate a membrane patch of say 9x9 nm POPC with sufficient vertical waters to take
care of pbc and long range interactions (> 1.5nm above/below the bilayer)
using Tom's Charmm36 FF port.

I am seeing a lot of different methods out there to: construct and
equilibrate such a system in prepration for g_embed or whatever.

I see from http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg33812.html the ability to use genbox to replicate Tieleman's 128 patch
but I also can build my bilayer inside VMD, which supports charmm36->pdb
atom names (and things seem to work fine)

I have yet to see anybody's run parameters and constraints for running
the equilibration, particularly using charmm36 (using vdwtype=switch).
Should I constrain all heavy atoms in the lipid during the NVT run, or
just the polar group (or even just P) and allow the tails to "melt" as seen elsewhere? Should I only set Z axis constraints? How long should I run in NVT before switching to NPT and for how long (10ns?) And should I change the
constraints moving from NVT to NPT?

As a point of clarity, "constraints" and "restraints" serve very different functions in Gromacs:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Constraints_and_Restraints

I presume you mean "restraints" in this context. I see no point in restraining the lipids completely during equilibration. It sort of defeats the purpose. Depending on how reasonable the starting configuration is, restraints on any group may not be necessary at all. Poor starting configurations, particularly with inadequate solvation within the interfacial region, often require vertical position restraints on P atoms to prevent the membrane from separating. Restraining the entire headgroup probably restricts lipid motion too much.

There is no standard timeframe for equilibration. Rotational relaxation occurs within a very short amount of time, translational within 10-20 ns for most lipids. You should pay close attention to diffusion constants, membrane thickness, area per lipid, etc to judge the quality of equilibration.

How should the thermostat be coupled? System or separate the water from the lipid?


This consideration is uniform among just about all systems and is a function of the thermostat rather than the system itself. Couple water and lipids separately, just as you would couple protein and solvent separately for most thermostats.

COM motion should be removed separately for water and lipids as well, to prevent lateral sliding that is hidden through global COM motion removal.

I experienced the same thing as Ng Hui Wen back in October with waters
being extremely dehomogenized (and diffusing out of the box) after 100ps NVT with all heavy POPC constrained at 1000 kJ/nm for all axes. I am sure that moving to NPT will restore the waters but still it was a bit scary to see for the first run.


That is probably an artifact of restraining all lipid atoms and not allowing for proper response between water and lipids.

If a lot of these approaches haven't been published, maybe we can just
stick them in the wiki to let everyone "pick their poison" when it comes
to equilibrating their bilayers.


I can think of at least a dozen plausible methods for equilibrating a lipid bilayer system, making it probably more confusing to simply list them and tell users to pick, especially if they don't know what they're doing. As with any equilibration of any system, you have to judge (1) whether the desired thermodynamic ensemble is achieved and (2) whether the properties of the system of interest are established. With these general rules in mind, the user is free to design their own procedure.

I wrote a membrane protein tutorial a long time ago that outlines many of these principles and discusses several more.

http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/membrane_protein/index.html

Even though your purposes may not involve a protein or the same force field, you may find some of the general information useful.

-Justin

Thanks for any ideas/hints/suggestions


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Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

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