Nilesh Dhumal wrote:
Hello Justin,

In the J. Chem. Phys. paper author have run the simulation 6.5 ns. So

I run the simulation 6.5 ns for collecting data and I have total 256 water
molecules.

I also asked how you calculated the dielectric constant.

When trying to replicate others' work, it is often most beneficial and less time-consuming to simply contact the corresponding author of the paper. They can talk with you directly about methodological details.

-Justin

NIlesh

On Sun, May 8, 2011 11:58 pm, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

Nilesh Dhumal wrote:

Hello Justin,


Here I have done some analysis.  The original value reported in J.Chem.
 Phys. 124, 024503 2006, paper are
Kbond = 443153.3808 kJ/mol nm**2
Kangle = 317.5656 kJ/mol rad**2.



Below are the results for the dielectric constant of water.I made the
.itp
file  pasted below the table. Bond length is nm.

bond length  Kbond         angle    Kangle    dielectric constant 0.1012
443153.3808    113.24  317.5656       ~1.9 : orginal value


0.1012       221576.6904    113.24  317.5656       ~80   : 1/2 (Kbond)


0.1012       443153.3808    113.24  158.7828       ~1.58 : 1/2 (kangle)


0.1012      221576.6904    113.24  317.5656       ~1.9   : 1/2
(Kbond)&(Kangle)


How were these dielectric constants calculated?  Did you collect
sufficient data?  It seems to me that there is no definitive dependence on
any of these parameters, and you have one outlying point that is
coincidentally close to what you want.  A consistently wrong dielectric
would suggest that either you're not calculating it right or you don't
have sufficiently converged data.

Based on a quick look through the paper, it seems to me that your
original premise of converting between force fields is not related to the
task at hand. Water models are relatively force field-agnostic, especially
when trivial functional forms, such as harmonic potentials, are applied.
There is nothing
fancy here.

Given the following:


[ bondtypes ]
; i    j  func       b0          kb
OW    HW      1    0.1012   443153.3808   ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503
[ angletypes ]
;  i    j    k  func       th0       cth
HW     OW     HW      1   113.24  158.7828 ; J. Chem. Phys.
(2006),124,024503


You are indeed applying simple harmonic potentials (see the manual to
confirm the form), which again indicates to me that you should not be
playing with the force constants in the model described in the paper.  Use
Ka and Kb as listed.
Halving these quantities will result in a harmonic potential, e.g. for
bonds of (1/4)Kb(b-b0)^2 rather then the proper coefficient of 1/2.


-Justin


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