On 28/12/11, Theodora García <theodoraaagar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> I just saw the article "Temperature Dependence of TIP3P, SPC, and TIP4P Water 
> from NPT Monte Carlo Simulations: Seeking Temperatures of Maximum Density" 
> published in Journal of Computational Chemistry, Vol. 19, No. 10, 1179]1186 
> (1998). It gives 0.985 for SPC at 25 C with different setup... perhaps 0.978 
> is not so bad?

 
Indeed. You should find the paper in which the parameterization of SPC was 
reported, and seek to reproduce the density reported there with a similar model 
physics. In general, a water model was probably parameterized to reproduce a 
set of observables reasonably well, and it does none of them perfectly. In 
practice, around 0.98 is normal enough in my recollection.
 
Mark 
 

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> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Theodora García <theodoraaagar...@gmail.com> 
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> > Thank you very much for your advice... I have tried including dispcorr = 
> > enerpres in my mdp file and the density increased a bit in a timescale of 5 
> > ns but it is still far from the value expected for pure water. These are 
> > the new results:
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> > Statistics over 2500001 steps [ 0.0000 thru 5000.0000 ps ], 3 data sets
> > All averages are exact over 2500001 steps
> > 
> > 
> > Energy                      Average       RMSD     Fluct.      Drift  
> > Tot-Drift
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Temperature                     298    2.67563    2.67534 2.70867e-05   
> > 0.135433
> > Volume                      126.133   0.529594   0.529323 1.17324e-05  
> > 0.0586622
> > Density (SI)                978.114    4.10621    4.10412 -9.08266e-05  
> > -0.454133
> > Heat Capacity Cv:      12.4733 J/mol K (factor = 8.06157e-05)
> > Isothermal Compressibility: 5.40447e-05 /bar
> > Adiabatic bulk modulus:        18503.2  bar
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> > I guess I should get 1000 g/cm^3
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> > Any other suggestion?
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> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 6:23 PM, David van der Spoel <sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se> 
> > wrote:
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> > > On 2011-12-27 17:57, Theodora García wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dear all
> > > > I am starting some MD simulations aimed to calculate the volume of a
> > > > solute in water as a function of the concentration. First I ran a
> > > > simulation of a box with 4124 SPC water molecules (similar number of
> > > > molecules that will be later used with my solute) for which I got the
> > > > following results after ~7.5 ns:
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> > > dispcorr = enerpres
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> > > > Statistics over 3762001 steps [ 0.0000 thru 7524.0005 ps ], 3 data sets
> > > > All averages are exact over 3762001 steps
> > > > 
> > > > Energy                      Average       RMSD     Fluct.      Drift
> > > > Tot-Drift
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Temperature                     298    125.156    125.156 1.9202e-05
> > > > 0.144476
> > > > Volume                      126.908    53.2917    53.2917 5.61522e-06
> > > > 0.0422489
> > > > Density (SI)                972.142    408.201    408.201 -4.30887e-05
> > > > -0.324199
> > > > Heat Capacity Cv:      16.9588 J/mol K (factor = 0.176389)
> > > > Isothermal Compressibility:   0.543909 /bar
> > > > Adiabatic bulk modulus:        1.83854  bar
> > > > 
> > > > Why am I obtaining so low density? The density seems to be constant over
> > > > that timescale.
> > > > 
> > > > This is my mdp file:
> > > > 
> > > > constraints         =  all-bonds
> > > > integrator          =  md
> > > > dt                  =  0.002
> > > > nsteps              =  2500000
> > > > 
> > > > nstxout             =  5000
> > > > nstvout             =  50000
> > > > nstenergy           =  1000
> > > > nstxtcout           =  5000
> > > > energygrps          =  SOL
> > > > nstlist             =  5
> > > > 
> > > > ns_type             =  grid
> > > > rlist               =  1.2
> > > > rcoulomb            =  1.2
> > > > rvdw                =  1.2
> > > > coulombtype         =  PME
> > > > fourierspacing      =  0.15
> > > > pme_order           =  4
> > > > ewald_rtol          =  1e-5
> > > > optimize_fft        =  yes
> > > > 
> > > > Tcoupl              =  nose-hoover
> > > > tau_t               =  0.1
> > > > tc-grps             =  SOL
> > > > ref_t               =  298
> > > > 
> > > > Pcoupl              =  Parrinello-Rahman
> > > > tau_p               =  0.5
> > > > compressibility     =  4.5e-5
> > > > ref_p               =  1.0
> > > > pcoupltype          =  isotropic
> > > > 
> > > > gen_vel             =  yes
> > > > gen_temp            =  298
> > > > gen_seed            =  -1
> > > > 
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> > > > Thanks in advance for any help...
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> > > -- 
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> > > Dept. of Cell & Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
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