On 11/02/2012 4:15 AM, francesca vitalini wrote:
Ok now I have tryied to restart it all and the problem seems to be that the system has some overlapping. In fact, no matter what I freeze, water, CA or nothing, I get this error message

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Option     Filename  Type         Description
------------------------------------------------------------
  -s        EM3.tpr  Input        Generic run input: tpr tpb tpa xml
  -o        EM3.trr  Output       Full precision trajectory: trr trj
-x EM3.xtc Output, Opt! Compressed trajectory (portable xdr format)
  -c        EM3.gro  Output       Generic structure: gro g96 pdb xml
  -e        EM3.edr  Output       Generic energy: edr ene
  -g        EM3.log  Output       Log file
-dgdl       EM3.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-field      EM3.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-table      EM3.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-tablep     EM3.xvg  Input, Opt.  xvgr/xmgr file
-rerun EM3.trr Input, Opt. Generic trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb
-tpi        EM3.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -ei        EM3.edi  Input, Opt.  ED sampling input
 -eo        EM3.edo  Output, Opt. ED sampling output
  -j        EM3.gct  Input, Opt.  General coupling stuff
 -jo        EM3.gct  Output, Opt. General coupling stuff
-ffout      EM3.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-devout     EM3.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
-runav      EM3.xvg  Output, Opt. xvgr/xmgr file
 -pi        EM3.ppa  Input, Opt.  Pull parameters
 -po        EM3.ppa  Output, Opt. Pull parameters
 -pd        EM3.pdo  Output, Opt. Pull data output
 -pn        EM3.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
-mtx        EM3.mtx  Output, Opt. Hessian matrix
 -dn        EM3.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
-coarse ION.gro Input Generic trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb

      Option   Type  Value  Description
------------------------------------------------------
      -[no]h   bool     no  Print help info and quit
       -nice    int     19  Set the nicelevel
     -deffnm string    EM3  Set the default filename for all file options
-[no]xvgr bool yes Add specific codes (legends etc.) in the output
                            xvg files for the xmgrace program
         -np    int      1  Number of nodes, must be the same as used for
                            grompp
         -nt    int      1  Number of threads to start on each node
      -[no]v   bool    yes  Be loud and noisy
-[no]compact   bool    yes  Write a compact log file
-[no]sepdvdl   bool     no  Write separate V and dVdl terms for each
                            interaction type and node to the log file(s)
  -[no]multi   bool     no  Do multiple simulations in parallel (only with
                            -np > 1)
     -replex    int      0  Attempt replica exchange every # steps
-reseed int -1 Seed for replica exchange, -1 is generate a seed
   -[no]glas   bool     no  Do glass simulation with special long range
                            corrections
-[no]ionize bool no Do a simulation including the effect of an X-Ray
                            bombardment on your system


Back Off! I just backed up EM3.log to ./#EM3.log.2#
Getting Loaded...
Reading file EM3.tpr, VERSION 3.3.1 (single precision)
Loaded with Money


Back Off! I just backed up EM3.edr to ./#EM3.edr.2#
Steepest Descents:
   Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+01
   Number of steps    =          200
------------------------------------------------------- inf, atom= 15321
Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226

Range checking error:
Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter
errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with some
coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential
energy seems reasonable before trying again.

Variable ci has value -2147483648. It should have been within [ 0 .. 42875 ] Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users@gromacs.org <mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org>)
-------------------------------------------------------

"With a Lead Filled Snowshoe" (F. Zappa)

Halting program mdrun

gcq#159: "With a Lead Filled Snowshoe" (F. Zappa)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
MPI_ABORT was invoked on rank 0 in communicator MPI_COMM_WORLD
with errorcode -1.

NOTE: invoking MPI_ABORT causes Open MPI to kill all MPI processes.
You may or may not see output from other processes, depending on
exactly when Open MPI kills them.


So... How ca I overcome the issue of overlapping atoms?

Generate better FG structures using a better method.

Try vacuum MD or SA with tiny time steps and no bond constraints.

Mark

Thanks
Fra

2012/2/10 francesca vitalini <francesca.vitalin...@gmail.com <mailto:francesca.vitalin...@gmail.com>>

    In fact in the reverse transformation I'm feeding the CG structure
    information.
    Once I look through VMD to the FG structure I notice that the
    backbones are not in planes so definitely I need to run some
    minimization there. In the tutorial they were using simulating
    annealing, but I don't think I need more than energy minimization
    for that.
    What do you think?




    2012/2/10 Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
    <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>

        On 11/02/2012 12:41 AM, francesca vitalini wrote:
        In order to overcome the problem I tried to fix everything
        except the backbone (solvent, sidechain and CA, as I want the
        structure to be maintained). However, if I do then I have
        problems with the energy minimization as the force on the
        15300 is infinite.

        Getting Loaded...
        Reading file EM1-1.tpr, VERSION 3.3.1 (single precision)
        Loaded with Money

        Steepest Descents:
           Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+01
           Number of steps    =         2000
        -------------------------------------------------------        inf,
        atom= 15300
        Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
        Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226

        Range checking error:
        Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each
        particle to a grid
        based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions
        or parameter
        errors that give particles very high velocities you might end
        up with some
        coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number).
        Obviously, we cannot
        put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those
        errors.
        Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that
        the potential
        energy seems reasonable before trying again.

        Variable ci has value -2147483648 <tel:2147483648>. It should
        have been within [ 0 .. 27744 ]
        Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users@gromacs.org
        <mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org>)
        -------------------------------------------------------

        "Oh My God ! It's the Funky Shit" (Beastie Boys)

        Halting program mdrun

        You suggested to check if there is any overlapping.

        ... so you need to get out some visualization software and
        look at the transformed structure :)


        There might be as my structure is obtained through a reverse
        transformation from a CG representation. In the mapping the
        atoms are positioned randomly in the bead. Now I'm running
        some energy minimization to equilibrate those atoms. I had to
        solvate the system after the mapping (couldn't do it before
        due to problems with ions)but I haven't equilibrated it yet
        and I'm keeping it fixed which could also be a source of
        overlapping.

        Local minimization with EM cannot in general take a "random"
        positioning of the generated atoms and make it one that will
        be stable under MD. Some structure knowledge needs to be build
        into the reverse transformation.

        Mark


        Any ideas?
        Thanks.
        Francesca


        2012/2/10 Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>



            francesca vitalini wrote:

                I achieve

                Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in
                205 steps,
                but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
                Potential Energy  = -1.49131940478719e+07
                Maximum force     =  1.09664530279637e+06 on atom
                1520    (parto of the protein)
                Norm of force     =  2.28369808518165e+06


            The magnitude of the force suggests atomic overlap
            somewhere.  Start by investigating the environment around
            atom 1520.


                and the system looked with vmd doesn't look as if it
                was exploding. However, I have warnings about the
                table extension and I don't know why but gromacs
                writes pdb files sometime. However I thought that there


            The "step.pdb" files are written when mdrun is about to
            crash.


                might have been an error in the way I defined the
                position restraints, in fact in the mdp file I hade
                define = -DEPOSRE while in the topology I had ifdef
                DEFINE_WAT, so it might have moved it all without
                fixing the water. So I tried again and this time I got


            The "define" statements are literal, so be careful of
            typos.  -DEPOSRE will not work when the topology calls
            for -DPOSRES.  So unless you've changed default naming
            for "define" statements, you're not going to get what you
            expect.


                Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in
                72 steps,
                but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
                Potential Energy  = -2.0135496e+07
                Maximum force     =  2.0486184e+12 on atom 4479
                Norm of force     =  7.2424045e+13


            Again, symptomatic of severe atomic overlap.


                but again the same issue with table extent and still
                the production of pdb files.

                Any explanations?


            Investigate the starting configurations near the
            problematic atoms.

            
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up#Diagnosing_an_Unstable_System

            -Justin


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