On 15/02/2012 4:45 PM, James Starlight wrote:
Mark,


due to hight density the volume of my system have been slightly increased and during NPT phase I've obtained error

Fatal error:
One of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off length or box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off.

I'm using 0.9 for electrostatic and 1.4 for vdw cutofs and the dimensions of my box was 6.5 3 3 on the initial step and 6.6 3 3.3 before crush :)

I want prevent such expansion of my system by increasing of pressure and/ or compressibility but I have not found exact sollution yet.

Your system is dangerously small for those cut-offs if your initial density is not correct for your model physics. Your y and z dimensions only just contain a full cut-off sphere. You should also make sure you are following the advice about choice of P-coupling algorithm in manual 3.4.9, and consider using a very small integration time step. I remain unconvinced by this thread that you have generated a starting configuration that does not have atomic clashes.

Mark



James


2012/2/14 Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>

    On 14/02/2012 11:01 PM, James Starlight wrote:
    This also was solved by the some extra minimisation steps.


    I've forced with another problem :D

    During npt equilibration my system have slightly expanded so my
    desired volume and density were perturbed.

    I've noticed the below options in npt wich could help me

    ref_p        = 1 1
    compressibility = 4.5e-5

     i'm using this compressibility value   because I'm modelling the
lipid-like environment so I think that I must increase pressure. Could you remind me the dependence of pressure from density and
    volume for liquids ? :)

    Your forcefield, simulation cell contents and .mdp settings will
    determine the equilibrium density. Whether you need to do anything
    depends on whether you've made a statistically significant
    post-equilibration measurement of your average density.
    Haphazardly increasing the reference pressure for the coupling
    will reduce the volume, but now you are simulating at that
    pressure. See
    http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure for
    background info.

    Mark



    James



    2012/2/14 James Starlight <jmsstarli...@gmail.com
    <mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com>>

        It seems that I've fixed that problem by reduce vdv radii for
        Cl during defining of my box

        Eventually I've obtained box with the desired density
         than I've delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir

        by when I've launched equilibration I've oibtained

        Fatal error:
        Too many LINCS warnings (1598)
        If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs
        warning threshold in your mdp file

        I've never seen this before

        I'm using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv
        my LINKS parameters are

        ; Bond parameters
        continuation    = no        ; first dynamics run
        constraint_algorithm = lincs    ; holonomic constraints
        constraints    = all-bonds    ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H
        bonds) constrained
        lincs_iter    = 1        ; accuracy of LINCS
        lincs_order    = 4        ; also related to accuracy

        How I could solve it?


        James


        2012/2/14 James Starlight <jmsstarli...@gmail.com
        <mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com>>

            Mark,

            I've checked only density value

            with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have  density that is twisely
            less that I need ( in accordance to the literature ).
            Also I've checked my box visually and found that the box
            is not properly tightly packed so I dont know why genbox
            didnt add some extra mollecules :(

            In other words I wounder to know if  there is any way to
            add some extra molecules to the pre defined box to make
            my system more tighly packed  ( to short distance between
            existing molecules and place new ones in the new space ) ?

            James


            2012/2/14 Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
            <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>

                On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James Starlight wrote:

                    Justin,

                    Firstly I've created the box of desired size with
                    only 500 molecules ( I need 1000)

                    Than I've tried to add extra 200 molecules by
                    means of Genbox

                    genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci Ccl4.gro -nmol 200
                    -o new_solv.gro

                    but no molecules have been added
                    Added 0 molecules (out of 200 requested) of Cl4


                ... then there are no gaps large enough to insert
                your molecules. Either make gaps, or check out genbox
                -h for advice on defining the radii.



                    also I've tried

                    genbox -cp super_box.gro -cp Ccl4.gro -nmol 200
                    -o new_solv.gro


                Two -cp options is not what you want, and -nmol
                probably only works with -ci.



                    but system were crashed with message

                    Reading solute configuration
                    God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such
                    Containing 2500 atoms in 500 residues
                    Initialising van der waals distances...

                    WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals) radii
                    will be determined
                            based on residue and atom names. These
                    numbers can deviate
                            from the correct mass and radius of the
                    atom type.

                    Reading solvent configuration
                    "God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos and Such"
                    solvent configuration contains 5 atoms in 1 residues


                    Is there any ways to add extra mollecules to the
                    pre defined box ?


                Yes - but there has to be room for them.

                Mark

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