On 2/03/2012 9:22 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:


On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Steven Neumann wrote:



        On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           Steven Neumann wrote:



               On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Steven Neumann
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        <mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com <mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com>>
        <mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com <mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com>
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               wrote:



                  On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Steven Neumann
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        <mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com <mailto:s.neuman...@gmail.com>>
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               wrote:



                      On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>>> wrote:



                          Steven Neumann wrote:

                              Dear Gmx Users,
                               I am trying to run nvt simulation
        (equilibration) of
                              the protein in implicit solvent. My mdp:
                                               integrator = md ; leap-frog
               integrator

                              nsteps = 1000000 ; 0.0005 * 1000000 = 0.5 ns

                              dt = 0.0005 ; 0.5 fs

                              ; Output control

                              nstxout = 10000

                              nstxtcout = 10000 ; xtc compressed
        trajectory output
                              every 2 ps

                              nstenergy = 10000 ; save energies every 2 ps

                              nstlog = 10000 ; update log file every 2 ps

                              ; Bond parameters

                              continuation = no

                              constraints = none

                              ; Neighborsearching

                              ns_type = simple ; search neighboring
        grid cells

                              nstlist = 0 ; 10 fs

                              rlist = 0 ; short-range neighborlist
        cutoff (in nm)

                              ; Infinite box with no cutoffs

                              pbc = no

                              rcoulomb = 0 ; short-range electrostatic
        cutoff
               (in nm)

                              coulombtype = cut-off

                              vdwtype = cut-off

                              rvdw = 0 ; short-range van der Waals
        cutoff (in nm)

                              epsilon_rf = 0

                              comm_mode = angular ; remove angular and
        com motions

                              ; implicit solvent

                              implicit_solvent = GBSA

                              gb_algorithm = OBC

                              gb_epsilon_solvent = 80.0

                              sa_surface_tension = 2.25936

                              rgbradii = 0

                              sa_algorithm = Ace-approximation

                              nstgbradii = 1

                              ; Temperature coupling is on

                              Tcoupl = v-rescale

                              tau_t = 0.1

                              tc_grps = system

                              ref_t = 298

                              ; Velocity generation

                              gen_vel = yes ; Velocity generation is on

                              gen_temp = 298.0

                              gen_seed = -1

                              Then after grompp I am trying to run the
               simulation on
                              the cluster:

                              mdrun -pd -deffnm nvt500ps

                              My log file:

                              Back Off! I just backed up nvt500ps.log to
                              ./#nvt500ps.log.1#

                              Reading file nvt500ps.tpr, VERSION 4.5.4
        (single
               precision)

                              Starting 8 threads

                              Back Off! I just backed up nvt500ps.trr to
                              ./#nvt500ps.trr.1#

                              Back Off! I just backed up nvt500ps.xtc to
                              ./#nvt500ps.xtc.1#

                              Back Off! I just backed up nvt500ps.edr to
                              ./#nvt500ps.edr.1#

                              starting mdrun 'Protein'

                              1000000 steps, 500.0 ps.

                              Segmentation fault

                                               Do you have any clue
        what is
               happening?


                          Try running in serial or with a maximum of 2
        threads.
                Your
                          problem could be related to
        http://redmine.gromacs.org/____issues/777
        <http://redmine.gromacs.org/__issues/777>

        <http://redmine.gromacs.org/__issues/777
        <http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/777>>.  You will need to

                          upgrade to 4.5.5 (serial should work on 4.5.4).

                          -Justin

                               Thank you. What do you mean by running in
               serial? Well... with 2
                      threads it does not make sense to use implicit
        solvent. Will
                      4.5.5 resolve this problem?
                                      Indeed, it works in serial. Will
        version 4.5.5 resolve
               it run it on
                  e.g. 12 nodes?
                           Sorry, the same problem :


           I think, as stated in the redmine issue cited before, the
        limit is 2
           threads/processors.

           -Justin



        I tried on one thread and on two threads and the error is
        still the same. Without particle decomposition the problem
        remains. Any suggestions?


    Then the problem lies outside of the algorithms.  Your system has
    become instantly unstable, thus suggesting that you have not
    sufficiently minimized or equilibrated the structure.



I run the same simulation with cutoff of 2.0 and it works fine. Does it mean I cannot use vdw and coulombic cutoff set to 0? It would be more realistic.

Thus you have an unstable initial system, and can get lucky under some conditions. Follow the advice here to explore how you can increase the chance of being lucky under your desired conditions: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up. Or use the end point of the rc=2.0 simulation as input for one with rc=0.

Mark
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