On 7/31/12 5:21 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
Thanks for dear Mark's suggestions.

What's the typical solution to fix such errors of grompp?
I don't have any idea to do what, so erased the lines defined in output of 
grompp, then I went through the NVT equilibrium, it didn't stop by multiple 
interaction errors. I don't know what will happen for the rest of the 
investigation, put the protein in bilayer and then Umbrella Sampling and 
.............  .
If anybody has suggestion, it would be appreciated.


You shouldn't delete lines from the topology. The errors indicate that the interaction types you have defined do not exist in the force field. You need to add suitable values, either by analogy to existing parameters or by a suitable derivation protocol.

I would not trust any results from a topology that has been haphazardly modified in this way. You may get rid of the grompp warnings, but you also get rid of reliability.

-Justin


Sincerely,
Shima


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From: Shima Arasteh <shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

I edited the grompp output and sent it to you. Bring that again here:
   Generated 21528 of the 21528 non-bonded parameter combinations
  Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
  Generated 18355 of the 21528 1-4 parameter combinations

  ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
       No default Bond types


  ERROR 2 [file topol.top, line 1698]:
       No default U-B types


  ERROR 3 [file topol.top, line 1699]:
       No default U-B types


  ERROR 4 [file topol.top, line 2345]:
       No default Proper Dih. types


  ERROR 5 [file topol.top, line 2346]:
       No default Proper Dih. types

  ERROR 6 [file topol.top, line 3278]:
       No default Improper Dih. types

And wrote line 414 is :
line 414 of topol.tp:
    [bonds]
          1     2     1



Sincerely,
Shima


________________________________
From: Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 31/07/2012 7:16 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
Wow!  That was a fabulous explanation given to me. Thanks dear Mark! :-)

I regenerated the topol.top to check the correctness of input and FF files. 
Some output has been changed however a little bit. Now, I bring you all was 
needed again:

1. rtp entry

[ FVAL ]
    [ atoms ]
       CN    C     0.357    0
       ON    O    -0.51    1
       H1    HA    0.100    2
       N    NH1    -0.423    3
       HN    H    0.333    4
       CA    CT1    0.034    5
       HA    HB    0.09    6
       CB    CT1    -0.093    7
       HB    HA    0.09    8
       CG1    CT3    -0.268    9
       HG11    HA    0.09    10
       HG12    HA    0.09    11
       HG13    HA    0.09    12
       CG2    CT3    -0.268    13
       HG21    HA    0.09    14
       HG22    HA    0.09    15
       HG23    HA    0.09    16
       C    C    0.528    17
       O    O    -0.510    18
    [ bonds ]
       CN    H1
       CN    ON
       CN    N
       N    HN
       CA    N
       CA    HA
       CA    C
       C    O
       CA    CB
       CB    HB
       CB    CG1
       CB    CG2
       CG2    HG21
       CG2    HG22
       CG2    HG23
       CG1    HG11
       CG1    HG12
       CG1    HG13

    [ impropers ]
       CN     N    ON    H1

2. hdb entry
In which file?
*aminoacids.hdb


FVAL    6
1    1    H1    CN    N    ON
This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...

1    1    HN    N    C    CA
1    5    HA    CA    N    C    CB
1    5    HB    CB    CA    CG1    CG2
3    4    HG1    CG1    CB    CA
3    4    HG2    CG2    CB    CA

3. N-terminal fragment
HETATM    1  CN  FVAL    1      -0.721   1.600   1.249
HETATM    2  ON  FVAL    1      -0.839   2.806   1.453
ATOM      3  N   FVAL    1      -1.227   0.728   2.125
ATOM      4  CA  FVAL    1      -1.918   1.159   3.323
ATOM      5  C   FVAL    1      -1.969   2.678   3.410
ATOM      6  O   FVAL    1      -0.931   3.335   3.447
ATOM      7  CB  FVAL    1      -1.219   0.644   4.576
ATOM      8  CG1 FVAL    1       0.208   1.178   4.618
ATOM      9  CG2 FVAL    1      -1.976   1.118   5.812

4. pdb2gmx command
#pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter

5. pdb2gmx output
Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
Reading monomer.pdb...
Read 177 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms

     chain  #res #atoms
     1 ' '    24    177

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Residue 42
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.rtp
Residue 46
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.rtp
Residue 82
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.rtp
Residue 86
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.2#
Processing chain 1 (177 atoms, 24 residues)
Identified residue FVAL1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue GLY24 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Select start terminus type for FVAL-1
    0: NH3+
    1: NH2
    2: None
2
Start terminus FVAL-1: None
Select end terminus type for GLY-24
    0: COO-
    1: COOH
    2: CT2
    3: CT3
    4: None
0
End terminus GLY-24: COO-
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 24 residues with 360 atoms
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 362, now 362
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Before cleaning: 925 pairs
Before cleaning: 930 dihedrals
Keeping all generated dihedrals
Making cmap torsions...There are   22 cmap torsion pairs
There are  930 dihedrals,   49 impropers,  644 angles
              916 pairs,      362 bonds and     0 virtual sites
Total mass 2510.906 a.m.u.
Total charge 1.000 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre.itp to ./#posre.itp.1#

Writing coordinate file...

Back Off! I just backed up monomer.gro to ./#monomer.gro.1#
                   --------- PLEASE NOTE ------------
You have successfully generated a topology from: monomer.pdb.
The Charmm36-modified force field and the tip3p water model are used.
                   --------- ETON ESAELP ------------


6. N-terminal fragment of the grompp -c input
       1FVAL    CN    1   3.039   1.904   2.416
       1FVAL    H1    2   3.086   1.871   2.334

This H1 atom is now in the right position for generation from the
correct .hdb, and pdb2gmx is not complaining of the long bond to H1,
which I think means you are using the correct .hdb now, and were not
doing so earlier. So my suggestion of a bug was unfounded.

       1FVAL    ON    3   3.027   2.025   2.436
       1FVAL     N    4   2.988   1.817   2.504
       1FVAL    HN    5   3.029   1.759   2.433
       1FVAL    CA    6   2.919   1.860   2.623
       1FVAL    HA    7   2.828   1.821   2.614
       1FVAL    CB    8   2.989   1.808   2.749
       1FVAL    HB    9   2.991   1.708   2.747
       1FVAL   CG1   10   3.132   1.862   2.753
       1FVAL  HG11   11   3.178   1.828   2.835
       1FVAL  HG12   12   3.181   1.831   2.672
       1FVAL  HG13   13   3.130   1.962   2.754
       1FVAL   CG2   14   2.913   1.856   2.872
       1FVAL  HG21   15   2.959   1.822   2.954
       1FVAL  HG22   16   2.911   1.956   2.874
       1FVAL  HG23   17   2.820   1.821   2.869
       1FVAL     C   18   2.914   2.012   2.632
       1FVAL     O   19   3.018   2.077   2.636

... and this shows atom H1 around 0.1nm from atom C. I can think of no
legitimate reason how this could occur, given your stated .hdb, but I
seem to recall an old .hdb version you showed had a line

1    1    H1    C    N    ON

rather than the correct

1    1    H1    CN    N    ON

********* I checked it, there was the correct one.

and this would explain the weird H1 position perfectly (but not how it still 
gets bonded to atom 1). I'd like you to double check that 
./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.hdb has (only) the correct FVAL entry. Also, 
I'd like to see the first 30 or so lines of the [bonds] section of this 
[moleculetype] in topol.top, so we can really see what bonds are generated.

* First 50 lines of the [bonds] section:

These are now normal. I suspect they were not earlier.


[ bonds ]
;  ai    aj funct            c0            c1            c2            c3
       1     2     1
       1     3     1
       1     4     1
       4     5     1
       4     6     1
       6     7     1
       6     8     1
       6    18     1
       8     9     1
       8    10     1
       8    14     1
      10    11     1
      10    12     1
      10    13     1
      14    15     1
      14    16     1
      14    17     1
      18    19     1
      20    21     1
      20    22     1
      22    23     1
      22    24     1
      22    29     1
      24    25     1
      24    26     1
      24    27     1
      27    28     1
      29    30     1
      29    31     1
      31    32     1
      31    33     1
      33    34     1
      33    35     1
      33    48     1
      35    36     1
      35    37     1
      35    38     1
      38    39     1
      38    40     1
      38    44     1
      40    41     1
      40    42     1
      40    43     1
      44    45     1
      44    46     1
      44    47     1
      48    49     1
      48    50     1
      50    51     1
      50    52     1


I think you may have encountered a new bug in pdb2gmx.

         1FVAL     O   19   3.019   2.076   2.635

7.grompp command line
# grompp -f ions.mdp -c monomer_solv.gro -p topol.top -o ions.tpr


8. grompp output
Generated 21528 of the 21528 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
Generated 18355 of the 21528 1-4 parameter combinations

ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
       No default Bond types


ERROR 2 [file topol.top, line 1698]:
       No default U-B types


ERROR 3 [file topol.top, line 1699]:
       No default U-B types


ERROR 4 [file topol.top, line 2345]:
       No default Proper Dih. types


ERROR 5 [file topol.top, line 2346]:
       No default Proper Dih. types

ERROR 6 [file topol.top, line 3278]:
       No default Improper Dih. types
All this probably follows on from the confused state of bonding to H1,
e.g. if CN-H1 is defined from the .rtp bond, and there's now a C-H1 from
the possibly erroneous .hdb construction. What is line 414 of topol.top?

* line 414 of topol.tp:
       [bonds]
          1     2     1

That's what it is in the new version, not the old version that actually
had the errors.

What does grompp have to say now?

Mark


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