On 3/25/13 2:37 AM, Emanuel Birru wrote:
Hi Jeremy,

I am not an expert of amber ff, but what I have notice form the ffbonded.itp 
file of amber99sb is that it does not have an improper header and it might use 
dihedraltypes for both proper and improper; or constratinttypes. It would be 
good to get a comment from someone who knows how amber works well.


The directive is [dihedraltypes]. One can differentiate between propers and impropers by looking at the function type (see Table 5.5 in the manual).

Another problem might be with your atom names ( CAD  OAX  CAB  CAG ) . If the 
atom names of your ligand are not available in the amber99sb ff, when you 
generate your top/itp file it wont understand them. If you want include new 
atom/molecule it is always good to get the parameters from some other 
literature or use the very similar kind of atoms to generate an itp and check 
whether your parameters are good or bad by calculating some other 
physicochemical property.


Atom names are not what ffbonded.itp uses. Interaction types are defined by atom types.

-Justin

By the way, you can include your atom/molecules or new parameters in general in 
amber99sb or any force field and generate you're an itp file for your new 
molecules. But you have to be careful not to mess up other parts of the ff. Or 
you can create your own copy and incorporate in the simulation package (top 
folder).

It would be good if you explain what you are trying to do in detail to get more 
productive help.

Cheers,
EB

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Dear EB,

Many thanks for the kind reply! We have revised the improper section followed your 
advice. The force field is amber99sb. Unfortunately, the program complained again, 
"No default proper dih. types'. Any advice?
Thanks!

Cheers

Jeremy



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Hi Jeremy,

I have checked how improper dihedral should look like in Amber, guessing that 
you used amber99sb force field. But I am wondering from where the improper in 
your ligand.itp was generated. As it doesn not look alike with the amber force 
field. It actually is not the problem of multiplicity but the number of 
parameters that you put in the improper is not enough. It should be at least 
three parameters in the improper section

Yours look like
   [ impropers ]
   CAD  OAX  CAB  CAG       0.000   167.4 (two parameters here angle and
force constant)

Whereas the program is looking for
CT  CT  OS  CT    9       0.0      1.60247     3  (here function, angel,
force constant and multiplicity??) copied from the amber bonded force field 
parameter :)

I think you should generate a logical itp file which fullfil all the necessary 
requirements before you run you simulation.

Cheers,
EB


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