-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ringo, I'm sure your intent with that was good, but I kind of find it ironic you picked both global warming and smoking. I disagree with the concept of global warming. Up until 3 weeks ago, I was also a smoker.
I think you proved my point EXACTLY. gNewSense is not "marketed" as an alternative to Windows. It is "marketed" as a Free Software distro. This mean that by *nature* it stands against the restrictive licenses, digital rights mutilation, treacherous computing, crippling at the hands of patents and other threats to Freedom. Apple's Mac OS X is *just* as restrictive as the Microsoft EULA. Apple probably holds as many "software patents" as Microsoft does. When we begin challenging MS to do things, but don't make that same challenege to *everyone* meeting those circumstances, we not only look like hypocrits, but we're also damaging our own mission. It leaves people with the impression that Mac OS X is more acceptable than Windows. I personally think our collective energy would be better spent educating people as to why broad patents are a problem, rather than worrying about Microsoft's (or any one company's) misuse of them. - -Kevin Ringo Kamens wrote: > Sorry, I'm trying to get better at that. > Ringo > > On 26 Feb 2007 20:41:00 -0500, rek2GNU/Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> I agree with ringo for most part... >> But ringot is not linux but gnu/linux >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Ringo Kamens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Monday, Feb 26, 2007 8:19 pm >> Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Show us the Code? >> To: "Kevin M. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> CC: [email protected] >> >> While it's true that I don't see gnewsense as a distribution that >> should be involved in "pissing contests" I believe it's worthwhile to add >> our name to the list. When Microsoft makes libelous claims about >> "patent infringement" it drives people away from using Linux. They >> falsely believe linux is illegal or that doubt of its legality would >> create problems. Have we seen this technique before? Yes. Tobacco >> companies used it and in an internal memo said "doubt is our product". We >> saw their campaigns "More doctors choose camel!". We are seeing oil >> companies do this by inserting junk science and mis-information >> campaigns into the media. 99% of scientists believe in global warming but >> only about 50% of media articles do. This is the technique >> Microsoft is using and I see no reason to stand by and watch it when >> we could take action. >> Ringo Kamens >> >> On 2/25/07, Kevin M. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> > Honestly, I think statements like that are kind of useless. >> >> > 1.) gNewSense is about promoting Freedom, not about thrashing those who >> write non-free code. >> >> > 2.) Microsoft will never actually release the source code. They have >> officially stated that they are against the CONCEPT of open code, let >> alone the possibility of them opening it themselves. >> >> > I'd personally rather see gNewSense be seen as the distro that is all >> about Free software, but stays out of the corporate pissing contests. >> >> > >> Ringo Kamens wrote: >> > Open Letter to Steven Ballmer >> > >> > It's come to many in the Linux community's attention you have claimed >> > again and again, that Linux violates Microsoft's intellectual >> > property. Not only that, but it's been reported Microsoft has >> > convinced businesses to pay for a Linux patent that you can't provide. >> > >> > Therefore, this website will serve as a response to this accusation, >> > and within it, a request. The request is simple, since you, >> > Microsoft, claim to be so sure of yourself: Show Us the Code. >> > >> > If Linux developers are made aware of the code, then the code can be >> > omitted and Linux can re-write necessary aspects of the kernel or >> > operating system. This is a fairly simple request and common >> > courtesy. Why wave around lawsuit threats, threats that will cost >> > Microsoft in a court room as well as the defendants? It lacks logic, >> > especially when you consider that there are developers around the >> >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF45R1IU6faB3X04sRArsqAJ9Qh49THyDtQQiyAbiFcR8ouT6YIwCgpD1o iGLtf6tAgpThL6h4z/Cb7GE= =xAsO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ gNewSense-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnewsense-users
