>
> Some paranoid GNU/Linux users say that these kinds of blogs are written
> by Microsoft puppets. Myth busted. :)


That's okay. I always felt like happy GNU users were either lying or in
denial, too.
I'm unsure whether that's the case or I'm just a strong bogon
source<http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Q/quantum-bogodynamics.html>after
so much exposure to Windows :(

Atenciosamente / Sincerely,
Guilherme Prá Vieira

<http://www.linkedin.com/in/n2liquid>
 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/n2liquid>


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Sam Geeraerts <sam...@elmundolibre.be>wrote:

> Op Fri, 27 Dec 2013 02:57:59 -0200
> schreef Guilherme Vieira <super.driver....@gmail.com>:
>
> > Stallman says all the time that "the GNU community is great, you can
> > ask them anything and they'll come up with a solution." Well, I've
> > explained my HDMI problems in this list before, but nobody answered.
> > I know gNewSense is a small distro with a small, very busy community,
> > but oh man, *how can an HDMI output not work?* This is so *shameful*.
> > How can "grandma with her Yeeloong" use this system if the HDMI
> > output needs troubleshooting?
>
> I did read your email about your HDMI problem. It was obvious you
> are capable of tracing the bug pretty far into the system and I could
> not think of a way to help you any further.
>
> I've been fortunate that I've not had to deal with HDMI (and the
> HDCP that comes with it) yet. Choosing my hardware carefully makes me
> less in touch with what grandma may have spinning under/on her desk.
> Avoiding HDMI is becoming less of an option each day and I suspect that
> in your case it's not so much HDMI in itself that is the problem, but
> rather the graphics card (or the motherboard) as a whole. That's hard
> to debug without having the machine at hand and some intimate knowledge
> of Xorg, Linux and the hardware type in brain.
>
> > Seriously, there has got to be a community of people who focus on this
> > issue. WHERE IS IT? I'll throw at them all the money I've got and
> > I'll help with everything in my reach, but it's gotta exist first.
> >
> > A community that will pick, say, Xorg, and say "okay, we will make
> > this work on such and such and such platforms, and it will be
> > guaranteed to work and be tested on those platforms, and you will be
> > allowed to change such and such configuration parameters and that's
> > it." Such configuration parameters should be grandma-friendly, be
> > incapable of bricking the graphical interface, and have a graphical
> > interface to tweak them. It shall be called Xorg-unf**ked or
> > Xorg-that-actually-works.
>
> I think good (or at least publicly available) hardware specs would go a
> long way in solving graphics problems. If you want to spend money, give
> it to projects that create hardware with freedom/openness as a core
> value [1].
>
> > I won't turn back anymore. I've made a vow that I will only use libre
> > software and I'll play by it, forever. I'll work around issues when I
> > can, actually fix stuff when I can't work around them (I *did* debug
> > my GPU kernel objects before giving up,) and I'll plainly accept that
> > some technologies are out of reach when all of that fails (which is
> > what happened to my HDMI output.)
> >
> > When Xorg was unstable and I couldn't figure why, I almost fell back
> > to the Linux console. I already use vim anyway, so I intended to use
> > a framebuffer browser there, such as Firefox with GTK on DirectFB and
> > play music using mpd and such. Luckily, I found a way to work around
> > the problem, at the cost of my external monitor. I guess everything
> > has a price :) I'm willing to go very far for freedom, as you can see.
>
> Excellent.
>
> > But I do wonder: How is everybody using GNU and managing not to be as
> > pissed up as I am? By God, what am I missing? I used to blog about the
> > problems I encountered in my GNU adventures here (but stopped):
> > n2liquid.wordpress.com/category/gnu-drama/.
>
> Some paranoid GNU/Linux users say that these kinds of blogs are written
> by Microsoft puppets. Myth busted. :)
>
> > P.S.: Please don't take this too personally. I know the gNewSense
> > community can only do so much, and I'm glad it does what it does (it
> > *is* my distro of choice, after all,) but I really, really need to
> > take this out of my chest from time to time. And I wanted to meet
> > good counter arguments to all that or like-minded people who want to
> > try to solve this problem somehow.
>
> Thanks for your faith in the gNewSense community. We do what we can.
>
> [1] http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Main_Page
>
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