On Mon, 10 May 2004, at 2:21pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm basically on the side of individual freedoms and don't like that port > 25 egress filtering is being implemented by broadband vendors.
Geeks (I include myself in this category) like to romanticize this idea of the big, happy Internet, where all people are equal, censorship is treated as damage, and so on. I'm afraid that is a myth. That mythical "Internet" does not exist, and never has. You can connect your equipment to somebody else's equipment. That's it. If you're big enough, the "somebody else" might be a peer. Most people just pay for a link or two to companies that specialize in network connections. Regardless, you're connecting to *their* equipment, and they can run it however they see fit. If nobody is willing to give you connection on their terms, you do not get connected. It has always been this way. I find it helps to keep this in mind, when people start feeling their "freedom" has been infringed because their ISP doesn't let them do everything they want to. > But as long as there are vendors that will give you an unfiltered > connection (even for a larger fee), with fixed IPs, I'll be happy. Indeed. Paying a higher fee for a higher class of service will always get you better treatment. Here, too, realize you're not just paying for IP address space, you're paying for the promise of support. Not just the guy answering the phone when you have trouble, but support in the sense that your ISP won't mess you up like this. > I do predict that spammers will adapt to this new authenticated email > world rather quickly. [...] But we will still be in a better place when > it comes to spam. When enough clueless users get disconnected from their > ISPs for spam propagation ... Heck, just the fact that it adds an audit trail to the message headers (so I, as a mail abuse victim, can trace it back more easily) is worth it. It also means an ISP will be able to notice that Subscriber #53429 is sending way more mail then is reasonable, and thus take action to cut off the spam before as much spam gets sent. > [Users] will either take more proactive measures to keep their systems > clean of viruses, or put more pressure on their operating system vendors > of choice to put security where it belongs: at a much higher priority than > convenience. Or both. Add to that: After Joe Luser has had his feed cut a few times, maybe he will think twice before installing whatever random software he finds on the net. > Sadly, I'd suggest that we all get used to this up and coming > authenticated email world. s/email// -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do | | not represent the views or policy of any other person or organization. | | All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | _______________________________________________ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss