Can you define the difference then between what Joomla! can do that
WordPress can't?  From what I can tell, WP has plugins available to do
damn near everything.

While Wordpress can do a lot, at the end of the day, it's a blog, not a CMS.
If your goal is blogging first, and other items secondary, it'll do
the job most likely.

>> I've been fairly impressed so far, but also planned on looking
>> at Joomla! (with, imo, has a cooler name just because it sounds rather
>> silly :)

Drupal.  Xaraya, Mambo (now Joomla).  All of these names are silly.

I did a comparison between Joomla! and WP and they looked fairly equal
with extremely minor exceptions.  Perhaps I missed something.  As I
said, I've been poking at WP for less than a week and was also
planning on poking at Joomla! in a similar way.

Joomla's pretty.  It's also easy to use, and gets a lot of newbie
attention as a result.  But (IMHO) the backend is very much
'separate'.  Install a new function, and there is no guarantee the new
functionality will mesh with the old.  It's like running multiple
programs that don't (always) talk to each other.  (nothing against
Joomla, btw, plenty of older CMSes were the same way.  I hated coding
for Postnuke (now Xaraya) for that reason.

Take a look at (and install) Drupal 5.0.  Drupal's now 6 years old,
and very mature, very easy to use, and unlike the above, it's _very_
much built from the ground up in a modular manner.  Its' motto is
'community plumbing', in part because of the tinkertoy manner in which
you can connect pieces together.  Want your blog entries to have event
calendaring?  Ok.  Now want to add geolocation and a map?  Ok.  What,
you want voting and promoting the best stuff to the front page, troll
and spam protection, group permissions, e-commerce, image galleries,
ajaxian coolness, and 50 other things?  Ok.  And for the most part,
they all talk/interact together...   and if you want it simple, you
can do that too...

One thing I *really* liked about Joomla! was the downloadable user
manual available in PDF.  It makes for reading about it much easier
when you're on the train :)

There are books (including PDFs) on all of the better CMSes.
Professional bound (or pdf) books on Drupal exist (and I recommend
them) but they aren't needed, as there is a nice handbook online as
well as a strong community of users.

Local sites running drupal you might have visited lately, and the
people behind them...

http://nhpr.org (running a very custom version I think at this point)
coded by a local Drupal whiz Morbus Iff ( http://www.disobey.com )
Haven't met him, though we've emailed once or twice.

http://www.concordspca.org
coded by http://carnevaledesign.com  Never met them.

http://democracyfornewhampshire.com
don't recall who is webmastering this now, but it's running Civicspace
(a Drupal repackaging) and is a bit aged now.

and on the other side of the fence, http://nhliberty.org
which I _used_ to webmaster, running a slightly newer CivicSpace version.

I'll volunteer right now to do a Drupal introduction at a upcoming
Concord GNHlug meeting, if someone will schedule it.

Seth
(who spend many of his days doing Drupal developing)
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