On 2/12/07, TARogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pine. Because I know all the commands.
Yah, me too... tried mutt once or twice, was irritated that I
couldn't get it to do what I wanted to [6][7], since it seemed really
powerful. One thing Pine does better then just about anything I've
used is provide lots of hand-holding for the total newbies, but still
do a good job at getting out of your if you ask it to, and provide a
fair dose of "power user" functionality. Pine was the first *nix
program I ever really used.
As of late, I've switched to Gmail, just because it's so damn
convenient. But I still miss Pine.
MH and friends always appealed to me, but they don't work with IMAP
at all, which was always a deal-breaker for me. Of course, here I am
using Gmail, which also doesn't work with IMAP at all.... :-/
Except how to reply only to gnhlug, and not everyone else without
editing the "To: " and "Cc: " lines.
I did this by sorting all GNHLUG mail into an incoming folder (using
procmail), and then using a Pine Role to make all replies to mail in
that folder get addressed to the list posting address only. From my
.pinerc file back then:
patterns-roles=LIT:pattern="/NICK=gnhlug/[EMAIL
PROTECTED],gnhlug-discuss/FLDTYPE=EMAIL"
action="/ROLE=1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/FCC=lists\/gnhlug/SIG=.disclaimer/CSTM=To:
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org,Mail-Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Cc:,Mail-Followup-To:
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org/RTYPE=YES/FTYPE=YES/CTYPE=NO"
As I recall, that breaks down to...
patterns-roles=
Pine config file declaration
LIT:
Magic.
pattern="
Begins the definition of the pattern to look for to trigger this thing.
NICK=gnhlug
nickname of the Role (or is it of the Pattern?)
/PARTIC=...
List of participants to match on. In this case, the list posting
address and an alias.
/FLDTYPE=EMAIL"
More magic. "Folder type is email" is the obvious meaning, but what
*else* would the folder type be? News, maybe? The quote closes the
"pattern" declaration.
action="
Action to take when the pattern matches.
/ROLE=1
Magic. Would appear to mean this is Role 1, or should use Role 1, or
something, but all of my rules from said .pinerc file use the same
"ROLE=1", and I cannot find anything else that mentions Roles, so...?
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Explicitly sets "Reply-To" to be the list posting address, because I
wanted to discourage off-list replies to my mail (take *that*,
anti-munging weenies! [2]). Leave out if you prefer not to do that.
/FCC=lists\/gnhlug
Saves mail to my list folder for the gnhlug-discuss list. FCC is
Pine-speak ("Folder Carbon Copy") for save-to-file. The slash (/) is
a directory separator, and has to be escaped with a backslash (\),
since this .pinerc context uses slash as a command flag.
/SIG=.disclaimer
At the time, I used a disclaimer sig instead of my corporate sig in
list email.
/CSTM=...
Force custom mail headers.
To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
Force mail to be sent to list posting address.
Mail-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suggest explicit off-list replies be sent to my personal address. [5]
Cc:
Blank CC field. I hate List Header Cancer [1].
Mail-Followup-To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
Suggest list posting address. (At one time, the GNHLUG list server
didn't do this automatically.)
/RTYPE=YES/FTYPE=YES/CTYPE=NO"
Magic. I forget what these do. The quote closes the "action"
declaration.
Everybody got that? :-)
Footnotes
---------
[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/gnhlug@zk3.dec.com/msg15581.html
[2] http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html [3]
[3] http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml [4]
[4] We've had this debate on this list already. We voted. "No munge" won.
[5] http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html
[6] In fairness to mutt, I didn't try very hard.
[7] Footnotes are in order of writing, not appearance.
-- Ben
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