Rats! For some reason I thought this was next week. I've been swamped between work, finishing the semester and not having power for a few days (sorry to hear some folks are *still* without). Anyway, sounds like I missed a decent meeting. Oh well, there's always next month
-Shawn On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Ted Roche <[email protected]> wrote: > Six folks attended the December meeting of the Python Special Interest > Group, held on the irregular third Wednesday in December to allow for > the festivities next week. (We normally meet the fourth Thursday, same > place, same time.) > > There wasn't a formal agenda, and discussion was first the ice storms of > last week and everyone's power status. > > I talked with Bill about setting up my new Sansa player with Rockbox and > using gPodder in Fedora10 to sync music. The gPodder Podcast client can > sync with using the standard file-based method or by using the Media > Transfer Protocol popular in many players. To run with gPodder, I needed > to install libMTP and PyMTP [1] (there's a Python connection!) I also > discovered while importing RSS feeds that there's a bug in Fedora 10's > version of Mark Pilgrim's awesome feedparser, fairly easy to patch, > documented here [0]. It's an arguable bug; it may be that feedparser > throws an error instead of behaving more gracefully when hander RSS that > might not be fully valid, in this case apparently a bad Unicode > character. Perhaps not fully following Goodwin's Law (paraphrased, " > > Arc had sent a link, "If Languages were Religions" [2], which included > the suggestion, "Python would be Humanism: It's simple, unrestrictive, > and all you need to follow it is common sense. Many of the followers > claim to feel relieved from all the burden imposed by other languages, > and that they have rediscovered the joy of programming. There are some > who say that it is a form of pseudo-code. " Read the whole post; there > are some good ones! > > Bill Freeman had an idea he'd like to float for a project to avoid name > contention issues, using a naming scheme similar to Java's com.sun.... > namespace for individual projects. Kent dug around in the > comp.lang.python archives for some previous threads on the subject to > review what had been said on the issue before. > > Kent wanted to talk about Python 3.0! Shawn had sent a link to the list > [3] for Python porting resources, but wasn't able to make the meeting. > We discussed some of the issues with porting 2.x Python code to Python > 3.0 and tested out the 2to3 program. Arc and Matt arrived and joined in > the conversation. We first converted the canonical "hello world" program > and worked up to Bill's telephone list program, Arc suggested jinja [4], > and an unpublished project that Kent had been working on involving > recognizing human languages, each of which had gradually more and more > complex issues. The 2to3 program won't always make working code, but it > does a fine first pass in making all of the well-known changes in > converting a 2.x program to 3.0. In running the programs through 2to3 > and examining the results, the group had a good discussion about some of > the syntax and structural changes in 3.0 > > Thanks to Bill Sconce for organizing the meeting and bringing the milk, > to Janet for the wonderful airplane cookies, to the Amoskeag Business > Incubator for providing us with the great facilities and to all for > attending and participating. > > > [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477024 > [1] http://nick125.com/projects/pymtp.html > [2] > http://www.aegisub.net/2008/12/if-programming-languages-were-religions.html > [3] http://pyside.blogspot.com/2008/12/python-3-porting-resources.html > [4] http://jinja.pocoo.org/ > > > -- > > Ted Roche > Ted Roche & Associates, LLC > http://www.tedroche.com > _______________________________________________ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >
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