2009/8/2 Frederic Peters <fpet...@gnome.org>: >> In this case, the Name of the application is "Empathy", and its >> "GenericName" could be "Instant Messenger". > > Btw, this is a question for translators, there is currently a proposal > posted to freedesktop to enhance the spec with a new "FullName" key, > as naively combining Name and GenericName wouldn't work in all > languages; it would be quite helpful to have some concrete examples.
I wrote a simillar proposal some time ago here[1]; the main difference is that I suggested a programmatical approach to "build" the FullName. >From a i18n/l10n point of view, this could help to have homogeneus FullNames. In fact, let me assume that you'll add a new FullName property to .desktop file, such as Name=GEdit GenericName=Text Editor FullName=GEdit Text Editor and Name=Transmission GenericName=Bittorrent Client FullName=Transmission Bittorrent Client The actual translation of FullName key value will depend on single translator, and could change within the same language, expecially for translations of applications outside gnome.org. So you could have FullName[it]=Editor di testo GEdit (GenericName Name) FullName[it]=Transmission - Client bittorrent (Name - GenericName) This could be really bad for usability :( The programmatical approach will help to have the same layout for all applications: just put a "%$1s %$2s" translatable message in glib or gnome-menus and let translation team to pick up their preferred localized layout. My suggestion, if applicable, is to fix the usage of Name key in desktop files from GNOME/Gtk+ apps and follow KDE approach, see [2]. Well, the "GenericName (Name)" default maybe is not the best :) > For example, in French, it wouldn't be "Name + GenericName" (ex: > "Rhythmbox" "Music Player") but "GenericName + Name" (ex: "Lecteur de > musique" "Rhythmbox"), and that rule (afaik) would work in all cases. > > Would such a simple rule exist for all languages? > In Italian language the "rule" is `GenericName Name`, but as translation team we allowed to use `Name - GenericaName`. We choosed this approach to highlitgh both the "branding" (Name) and the usage (GenericName) [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00325.html [2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2009-July/010809.html _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n